Dr.Spaceman Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I don't think he's bad, I just don't think he'll improve them. He'll be out the door if they reach the Champions League anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Love to be a fly on the wall to see how Rafa is dealing qith this as he still very fond of his time at Liverpool. Hope he is holding out for as much as pissable... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Mane, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Coutinho and Firmino there, without any European football to rotate. Even if Firmino is used up front, that's quite a selection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Genuinely pleased that he's going like. Technically nice on the ball, but I very quickly turned on him due to his absolutely shit attitude and his invisible and/or terrible performances. Sissoko's a shit as well as far as effort goes, but I can't remember a game where he hid, even when he was playing badly. Players that hide annoy me more than players who play badly, though, so it might be that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 This c*** not gone yet!? Just get 18m and get him out the door and get a CB and goal scoring midfielder or striker in and we are sorted. Easy. Messing about with ridiculous asking prices for player who Dosent want to be here Why are you in such a rush The season doesn't start for another month or so, we have plenty of time to bleed them dry and focus on other stuff in the mean time. Just over two weeks marra. Yay championship. Yay Friday kick off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Questionable attitude, but he was messed around for a lot of the season playing in different positions. McClaren never seemed sure what to do with him. If they can find a position that suits him and play him in the right system, he could do very well. He has the technique and an eye for goal and seems to suit counter attacking football. They're getting a talented player but for the prices being mentioned it's a big gamble on their part. At his best he looked like a top player, but he was also poor for the majority of the season and the 11 goals stat hides that fact. They're gambling on his potential to deliver in a better team. I think he has the ability and I'd rather keep him than Sissoko if either were possible, simply because he's a better footballer. From our perspective, it's a good deal provided he's replaced. In spite of the 11 goals he was invisible in so many games, to the point you would forget he was playing. It's not like a key player is being taken out of our side. It's a good opportunity to bring in a player who is more suited to our needs - we're still lacking in creativity in a league where teams will mostly set up to stop us playing. decent summary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I reckon Coutinho could be off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Questionable attitude, but he was messed around for a lot of the season playing in different positions. McClaren never seemed sure what to do with him. If they can find a position that suits him and play him in the right system, he could do very well. He has the technique and an eye for goal and seems to suit counter attacking football. They're getting a talented player but for the prices being mentioned it's a big gamble on their part. At his best he looked like a top player, but he was also poor for the majority of the season and the 11 goals stat hides that fact. They're gambling on his potential to deliver in a better team. I think he has the ability and I'd rather keep him than Sissoko if either were possible, simply because he's a better footballer. From our perspective, it's a good deal provided he's replaced. In spite of the 11 goals he was invisible in so many games, to the point you would forget he was playing. It's not like a key player is being taken out of our side. It's a good opportunity to bring in a player who is more suited to our needs - we're still lacking in creativity in a league where teams will mostly set up to stop us playing. Agree with this. I've got no doubts over his ability to be a success there - he's a fantastic footballer. Also reckon in a successful team he will have a far better attitude which in reality is the only major criticism you'd have of his time here because that was the catalyst for his invisible performances - nowt to do with his ability. Very interested to see how he'd fit into Klopp's high pressing ethos too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Around last November, one of the stats sites looked at Vardy's numbers during what would become his record-breaking streak and said they were normal. He was scoring because he was regularly shooting from good positions. He was shooting more than Aguero. They also looked at Wijnaldum and said he was on a flukey streak. His conversion percentage was unsustainably high. He'd scored 7 from something crazy like 11 shots, four of them past Norwich's keeper. We scored with all six shots on target in that game. While he can deliver more than he did in the shitshow under McClaren, I don't think he's a consistent double figures from CM player. That's a young Scholes or Lampard, someone much more involved in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 This c*** not gone yet!? Just get 18m and get him out the door and get a CB and goal scoring midfielder or striker in and we are sorted. Easy. Messing about with ridiculous asking prices for player who Dosent want to be here Why are you in such a rush The season doesn't start for another month or so, we have plenty of time to bleed them dry and focus on other stuff in the mean time. Just over two weeks marra. Yay championship. Yay Friday kick off. Is it? didn't know that Besides still don't see the rush really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Poor range of passing, can't beat a man, can't defend. Nolan with a lower body-fat percentage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 This c*** not gone yet!? Just get 18m and get him out the door and get a CB and goal scoring midfielder or striker in and we are sorted. Easy. Messing about with ridiculous asking prices for player who Dosent want to be here Why are you in such a rush The season doesn't start for another month or so, we have plenty of time to bleed them dry and focus on other stuff in the mean time. Liverpool linked with £27m bid. "Fuck that, just take £18m!11!!1!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Don't care about the fee now, just get him and Sissoko out so we can finally move on. I absolutely care about the fee because with all the shite that is spouted on here, the fee always vindicates my view. "Wijnaldum is crap!!" Bite their hands off in anyone bids more than £3m for Sissoko!!!" Yeah ok. Thanks for the £50m and fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 This c*** not gone yet!? Just get 18m and get him out the door and get a CB and goal scoring midfielder or striker in and we are sorted. Easy. Messing about with ridiculous asking prices for player who Dosent want to be here Why are you in such a rush The season doesn't start for another month or so, we have plenty of time to bleed them dry and focus on other stuff in the mean time. Liverpool linked with £27m bid. "f*** that, just take £18m!11!!1!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Maximize the fucking fee man, we'll use it this season to strengthen the team or stow it away for (hopefully) our PL return and we go and sign some classy player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 He'll get double figures playing for Liverpool like, will probably get double figures at Anfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Be interesting to see where Liverpool play him, you'd think Klopp sees a role for him rather than just being versatile across the Midfield. £25m plus and I'd be laughing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 So its nearly completed then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Ryder loves to dismiss a story. And he's always right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 So starting against Doncaster then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 from press association Newcastle are yet to receive an acceptable bid for midfielder Georginio Wijnaldum despite speculation he is close to joining Liverpool. Press Association Sport understands that there has been contact between the two clubs and that a fee for the £25million-rated Dutchman has been discussed. However, sources on Tyneside have indicated that the terms proposed to date do not meet the club’s requirements and as such, no deal is in place. The Magpies do not want to sell Wijnaldum, who joined them in a £14.5million switch from PSV Eindhoven last summer, and have no need to do so despite suffering relegation from the Premier League. But there is also an acceptance that every player has his price, and that a disgruntled player could be more trouble than he is worth and should Liverpool come up with the right money on the right terms, they may well do business. Wijnaldum, whose situation is also being monitored by Tottenham, was Newcastle’s leading scorer last season with 11 goals, four of them in a 6-2 league demolition of Norwich, although his form was patchy and he was unable to help the club retain its top-flight status following the appointment of Rafael Benitez as manager. The Spaniard is hopeful of keeping many of his big names to lead the fight for a swift return, but is also aware that sacrifices may have to be made to fund his rebuilding work. Andros Townsend, who had a £13million release clause in his contract, has already left for Crystal Palace, while Wijnaldum and France international Moussa Sissoko, who could cost up to £35million, have been linked with a series of potential buyers in recent weeks. However, neither has yet attracted an offer which matches the Magpies’ criteria and will not be allowed to leave unless that changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Oh my God I care so little about this guy. As long as we get our money back I'm really not arsed. Hopefully he'll be gone soon and we can move on. See Sissoko, M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Ryder loves to dismiss a story. And he's always right. It's a pretty sound strategy tbh. Just deny everything "at this time", and then if something actually does happen, just say that it happened after your original comment. Much safer than saying something is actually going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Standard Gini form at his unveiling. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160719/58d86db38063605da34b784d66391cd5.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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