ujpest doza Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 That was never a red card in amillion years, accidental contact and the 34 rolled around like a squealing little girl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Can't help think he had the disallowed penalty in mind myself. I think he knew he fucked up and it was his first chance to 'right' that decision. Absolutely. Then he just kept compensating more throughout the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 There's nothing quite like a ref or his decision that ends up being bigger than the result the players and the fans watching. Fucking refs are ridiculous and they're rarely held accountable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 On a side note regardless of today's crap decision, he's got to play smarter or he, the team, the fans and our results will suffer. Sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It's just going to say reckless/dangerous. All interpretation s***. My interpretation is that it was neither. Howard Webb said after the game that intent doesn't come into it, and that it all comes down to whether the tackle was dangerous. Studs up onto the shin / foot automatically makes it dangerous (in the modern game). Sadly that's just the way it is. Pointless arguing about it. Either way he needs to wise up because he's a marked man and he has brought it on himself. It isn't at all pointless arguing about it. It's your (or Howard Webb's) interpretation that studs up to the shin automatically makes something dangerous, where as it is my opinion that Howard Webb is full of s***, and for it to be dangerous it has to have some speed/force behind it, which is normally caused by severe recklessness or malice. There is no way this is a red card, whether it's 2015 or 1915. Hey, my view might be skewed by a visit to A&E after a "studs up, no malice, no force" tackle in one of the teams I used to play for. You can absolutely do damage at slow speed with no malice. Thankfully in my case it was just bad bruising, but it could have been worse. You can do damage with any tackle at any speed, it doesn't mean it should be banned from the game, and it certainly doesn't mean his actions were "dangerous". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Might as well sell back abroad he is a marked man now and will never grow up. Just a liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The sad thing is that he was clearly gagging to get out there and play in front of St James, you could see that in his pre-match interview. I'm not sure if he's maybe trying too hard as a result, or he's just a clumsy tackler, but his past record does seem to suggest it's a trait of his game. We need to get him to just rein it in a touch, not get rid of the aggression altogether, that's what actually makes him a perfect match for this club. Absolutely this. The people who are advocating, probably rightly, that if earlier incidents like his two earlier bookings and the penalty decision in this game would left out of the equation a yellow and a stern telling off would have sufficed need to ask themselves would they have left him on the pitch after that or taken him off as a precaution? This happened in the 16th minute and surely any leeway would have been gone so he would have had to play in a very controlled manner for the remaining 74 minutes + ET, and I don't think he has that in him. As much as it's valid to suggest the sport has gone soft and the referee could have been a bit more lenient, there is also undeniably a problem with the player himself, who just looks like an accident waiting to happen at this stage. Also, his card will not only be marked with referees, but also opposition players and managers who will try to use his reputation against him from now on. A lot of work is to be done to keep that bit of aggression that makes him a nuisance as a part of his game without it spilling over quite so frequently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 "hey which ones Gibbs? Which ones chamberlain? They all look the same to me FUCK YOU NEWCASSELL BITCHES IM NOT A RASCIST (you watchin media??) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Might as well sell back abroad he is a marked man now and will never grow up. Just a liability. How can you say that a 20 year old will never grow up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Guessing he gets a three match ban like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Guessing he gets a three match ban like? Yep. .com are pretty scathing in their match report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Presumably he'll miss the West Ham, Watford and Sheffield Wednesday games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Gave up reading .com years ago, found myself disagreeing with them far too much. Unfortunately the media have highlighted Mitrovic heavily already so anything like this was going to get blown up. For what it's worth I don't think it's a red, but can understand why it could be interpreted as such. Would have preferred him to play against Watford and West Ham but I still think Cisse and Perez can do a job in those games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Guessing he gets a three match ban like? Mcclaren says they'll appeal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 If it was any other player on the pitch, it would have been a yellow. I've watched it three or four times and I still think it was nothing more than a yellow. His leg imo makes a natural movement for the ball, his eyes were only on the ball. It's a bad challenge and mistimed, but not malicious. It also wasn't very high, he connected with his foot rather than his leg. If it was further up the leg, it'd be a dangerous challenge and a red - but it wasn't. I also don't believe the referee made the decision himself, he seemed to be talking on his mouthpiece before he pulled out the red. His angle was also blocked by Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Guessing he gets a three match ban like? Mcclaren says they'll appeal. Don't see the point. Them overturning it will basically be an admission that Marriner was corrupt throughout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Guessing he gets a three match ban like? Mcclaren says they'll appeal. Make that a 4 match ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It was a bad decision, but it was a judgement call. No chance of having it overturned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It was a bad decision, but it was a judgement call. No chance of having it overturned. Agree - they would be wasting their time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 So pleased to see most agreeing on here that it was a ridiculous, weak decision. Does Theo Walcott get sent off for that challenge? Not in a million years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 So pleased to see most agreeing on here that it was a ridiculous, weak decision. Does Theo Walcott get sent off for that challenge? Not in a million years. Partly because 'he's not that type of player'. Unfortunately Mitrovic hasn't helped himself from that perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 So pleased to see most agreeing on here that it was a ridiculous, weak decision. Does Theo Walcott get sent off for that challenge? Not in a million years. Partly because 'he's not that type of player'. Unfortunately Mitrovic hasn't helped himself from that perspective. Ha! Gareth Barry got booked for Everton earlier on and Niall Quinn said "he's not that type of player" and the commentator pointed out that Barry is in fact the most booked player in premier league history so IS that type of player! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Could the appeal maybe make it just the one match ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 So pleased to see most agreeing on here that it was a ridiculous, weak decision. Does Theo Walcott get sent off for that challenge? Not in a million years. Partly because 'he's not that type of player'. Unfortunately Mitrovic hasn't helped himself from that perspective. Ha! Gareth Barry got booked for Everton earlier on and Niall Quinn said "he's not that type of player" and the commentator pointed out that Barry is in fact the most booked player in premier league history so IS that type of player! 'Not that type of player' just means British/plays for a Sky 4 team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 'Possibly a yellow...' Newcastle 0-0 Arsenal Danny Mills BBC Radio 5 live at St James's Park "That is not a red card offence. He mistimes it, it's possibly a yellow card, but it's not particularly violent. Andre Marriner has had three big decisions to make so far and he's got all of them wrong." "People are saying on social media that the red card was a leg-breaking tackle. Never in a million years! Broken toenail maybe." --------------- Don't usually agree with Danny Mills and think he talks a lot of shit - but I think he's got that spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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