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Think the criticisms of Mitrovic are a bit OTT. He's our biggest aerial threat (even if he didn't score today), links up well with Ayoze and has good movement. He actually seems to care too, which stands out amongst our yellow bellies.

 

If you put him in a side with a half-decent central midfield and something resembling width, he'd be lethal. As it is, he's either being benched by Super Schteve or feeding on scraps from this shower of shit. He's not the problem.

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Yeah, he's far from our biggest problem. Also struggling to think of another striker of his ilk who would be burying the scant chances he gets from our shitpile of a team. He's probably as shocked as fuck when the ball actually reaches him in a goalscoring position.

 

Needs to score soon mind.

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While we shouldn't be relying on him this much, he isn't good enough to be leading the line. He misses far too many glaring opportunities, even Cisse would blush at some of them.

 

So typical of this club that we let the likes of Ba and Remy slip through our fingers due to frugality/lack of ambition.  Those two masked how awful we really were.

 

 

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Not worried about him. Strikers miss chances all the time. The shit ones don't even get themselves into a position to score. This guy gets in to the position often so the goals will come. A bit like Suarez's first year with Liverpool where he missed chances galore.

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He's still young and only been here 6 month, but we've seen Demba Ba and Loic Remy score hat fulls on service as bad as this.

 

I like him, but we need someone else in January, we cannot rely on him coming good in a relegation scrap.

I don't think Ba and Remy are fair examples tbh, both in their mid 20's when we signed them and both relied on either pace or power to get in behind defences while the rest of the team stood about and watched. Granted they both finished better than he is atm but they were much more experienced.

 

We are not playing remotely to his strengths at all, not even close.

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The criticism's mostly aimed at the club, not him. He's out of his depth and that's not his fault.

 

If we're talking about his abilities though I must say his complete lack of pace worries me. To overcome that you've got to have it between your ears and he just seems like someone that'd take a long time to acquire that.

 

Honestly, though. Signing solely him for so much money when you've got ready made PL strikers available for less is looking ludicrous. It typifies our brainless recruitment policy. We deserve relegation on the back of such decisions.

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The criticism's mostly aimed at the club, not him. He's out of his depth and that's not his fault.

 

If we're talking about his abilities though I must say his complete lack of pace worries me. To overcome that you've got to have it between your ears and he just seems like someone that'd take a long time to acquire that.

 

Honestly, though. Signing solely him for so much money when you've got ready made PL strikers available for less is looking ludicrous. It typifies our brainless recruitment policy. We deserve relegation on the back of such decisions.

 

Spot on, some of the decisions made by the "board" are ludicrous

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Starting to look a pudding. That chance yesterday was an abysmal effort.

 

He didn't look too bothered yesterday, like his mind was elsewhere.

 

Ayoze was the same, although maybe for different reasons. He only seemed to click into gear when he was about to be subbed.

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The more I see of him the more I really don't rate the lad. Aye he's decent at holding the ball up, as someone his size should be, but he's poor almost everywhere else and he looks so so slow and cumbersome.

 

And to think we could have had Austin for an extra couple of million. He could have turned out the difference between staying up and going down. Could turn out to be a massive own goal from the club that.

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Lukaku was given the expertise of Big Dun as a coach to learn his game from. Taught how to hold the ball up, fight correctly in the league and score. This guy has obviously been told to fight for the ball and take a tumble to try and get freekicks and thats it. Needs real guidance and he will make it as a great player in the league. At the minute though we're ruining him.

Hes still young as well and needs a few chances to get a goal but because we are so crap at using the whole pitch and getting good crosses in we're left to focus on the misses.

 

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Some of the excuses being made for him are pathetic.  He's a striker, he's expected to put away the chances he had last night if he can't then we've been sold a dud. 

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Those two Watford lads are a good package if you consider the demands of the PL. Pace, power and determination. Proper scary. You either have to be an instinctive finisher or have pace and power. The strikers who are have neither have to be in a dominating side who play high up and keep the ball. He's on a hiding to nothing.

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Wasn't impressed with his desire yesterday, seemed to accept from the off that it wasn't going to be a good day so didn't bother putting in more than the bare minimum. Same with Perez.

 

Agreed. Recent weeks - yesterday included - have shown a significant increase in desire than the appalling defeats against the likes of Sheff Wed and Watford, but there are definitely still problems with the mentality of the squad.

 

Points-wise, the victories against Liverpool and Spurs have essentially been erased by the past two garbage results, and we're back to square one. McClaren is back to having to gee them up.

 

We're going to be down here all season.

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I think the impact Mitrovic and Perez had against Spurs, only then to be on the bench for players who have contributed nothing recently has had an effect. That after they were the only ones dropped when the whole team was playing poorly before the Liverpool game. Hopefully it will pick up, but I worry that McClaren hasn't managed that situation in the best way. They seem demotivated now.

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