Stottie Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 He beat Kyle Walker very easily for his goal, but still kicked out at him with us still winning the game. If that's what he does to someone in his pocket, it doesn't bode well for games where a mouthy defender has the upper hand over him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Blokes a fucking arsehole. Needs shifting on. We've been saying that about you for more than a decade now. He's going nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Blokes a fucking arsehole. Needs shifting on. We've been saying that about you for more than a decade now. He's going nowhere. Wow, a whole decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Needs to calm down, a problem with quite a few players his age. I don't think his his challenge was actually deliberate and not as bad as people are making out, but it was still bad. Let's put it this way, plenty more experienced Spurs players did just as bad or worse challenges last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 He's clearly got talent, that goal was very accomplished. But he's a liability in his current state and efenders will soon learn how to rile him. And it seems very easily. He's just not very good. Far too thick and you're correct - he will be a liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Needs to calm down, a problem with quite a few players his age. I don't think his his challenge was actually deliberate and not as bad as people are making out, but it was still bad. Let's put it this way, plenty more experienced Spurs players did just as bad or worse challenges last week. I kind of agree it wasn't deliberate but extremely clumsy and showed a lack of awareness of what could happen in that situation, he clearly doesn't realise that walker's leg is where it is. The talent is there fo sure, as I said under the right guidance could be a star, keep Rafa, keep him imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Clumsy and reckless. Dangerous when you factor in the speed of which it all occurred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 As a pure target man he's about as good as it gets. When you factor in the goal shy and nutcase issues, he needs to develop. The Championship will suit him mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I thought his first half was a model in target man strikership. Never gave the Spurs backline a moment of peace. Held the ball up ,sometimes difficult balls too, and scored a great header. Would probably have got another without some quality last gasp defending. However, the red card was a disgusting assault and subsequent play acting embarrassing. I think he's potentially a very good striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awaymag Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Goal Shy? I think he gets a raw deal personally. In 1st season in Premier he scored 9 goals. Same as Andy Carrol and Christian Benteke. These guys are lauded for being goal scorers and worth £30M+. Its only because there was no-one else like Perez or Cisse chipping in with goals that it has fallen to him and people are looking too harshly. Agree he seems to have a red card passion but for a 21 year old in a new league, I think he has done okay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 He's a shitty one paced lump but so was Carroll when we went down. A season in the Championship could see him become something. There's some raw attributes there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just about shown enough to hang on to him I think. Jury very much still out though, ability and temperament wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 The greatest thing he lacks is temperament. He's still a kid and if we keep hold of him, a season in the Championship could be just what he needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Mate of mine thinks he did it because he wants to stay. As bizarre as it sounds the lad is mental and doesn't want to be sold. So his poor discipline record will put off buyers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Goal Shy? I think he gets a raw deal personally. In 1st season in Premier he scored 9 goals. Same as Andy Carrol and Christian Benteke. These guys are lauded for being goal scorers and worth £30M+. Its only because there was no-one else like Perez or Cisse chipping in with goals that it has fallen to him and people are looking too harshly. Agree he seems to have a red card passion but for a 21 year old in a new league, I think he has done okay And this in a shocking team that got relegated, where he didnt start every game, and he general targetman play beyond his years as a 21 year old. Imagine this guy with a few years of Rafa under his belt - he will be a massive handful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Mate of mine thinks he did it because he wants to stay. As bizarre as it sounds the lad is mental and doesn't want to be sold. So his poor discipline record will put off buyers? I can certainly see where he's coming from. Scraping your studs down an opposing players shin is so much simpler than just saying "I want to stay". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Goal Shy? I think he gets a raw deal personally. In 1st season in Premier he scored 9 goals. Same as Andy Carrol and Christian Benteke. These guys are lauded for being goal scorers and worth £30M+. Its only because there was no-one else like Perez or Cisse chipping in with goals that it has fallen to him and people are looking too harshly. Agree he seems to have a red card passion but for a 21 year old in a new league, I think he has done okay And this in a shocking team that got relegated, where he didnt start every game, and he general targetman play beyond his years as a 21 year old. Imagine this guy with a few years of Rafa under his belt - he will be a massive handful totally agree with this, 3rd worst (!) team in the division playing horrendously throughout and he nearly made double figures yes he missed a number of important ones but isn't the well-worn cliche about strikers that when they're missing the important thing is to be in positions in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I thought his first half was a model in target man strikership. Never gave the Spurs backline a moment of peace. Held the ball up ,sometimes difficult balls too, and scored a great header. Would probably have got another without some quality last gasp defending. However, the red card was a disgusting assault and subsequent play acting embarrassing. I think he's potentially a very good striker. I'd go with this. Pretty fair assessment. It's like he's seen Costa being an irritating, horrible twat and he's decided he's going to model his game on him. Both strong, physical players. Who also love to play act and commit some dirty fouls. If Mitro concentrated on playing football and not trying to fight everyone. I think he could develop into a good player. As it stands, he is just an unhinged loon, that shows the odd flash of potential and moment of class. I'm not sure he'll ever be prolific, mind. I think you'd need to surround him with pace and goals. Something we haven't done this season. Back to goal and in the air, he looks a real handful. But he looks lost when he is facing goal with the ball at feet. He's not clinical at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 His headers are of high quality, thats his strength. Goal yesterday, one against Sunderland, the one against Norwich, these are all top class finishes. Shearer/Carrollesque headers. His finishing with his feet & general speed of foot very dodgy. He's not scored a single goal with his feet with a defender between him & the goalie. Two pens, two 1on1's and one tap in. As seen yesterday, he tries to get the ball out of his feet & its too slow and easily blocked. He airshot the one slid across, even though it was good defending also. Same reason for these "clumsy" red cards. He has the heading, the strength, movement. He has to be quicker with his feet, maybe championship will help him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Watching the game yesterday it is clear he has plenty he can offer the team. He needs to work on things particularly his behaviour but he is 21 so that's about as obvious as it gets. Ameobi was reasonable in the championship for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just about shown enough to hang on to him I think. Jury very much still out though, ability and temperament wise. This for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 He missed another relatively easy chance yesterday from Janmaat's cross. Yes I don't expect him to finish every chance but he's very wasteful. Those discussing whether he meant the foul, did you not see the psycho stare he gave the ref earlier? He can't control himself. The Championship centre backs are going to enjoy getting him sent off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I love the mental bastard and i'll be gutted if he leaves. Obviously you can't condone what he did to Kyle Walker and the subsequent play acting but that aside, I think he's shown plenty of potential and I love the fact that he's mentally unstable. He wears his heart on his sleeve and you can see he loves the club - he's like a much bigger, dirtier version of Ketsbaia and I loved that crazy fucker as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Dunno, from what I saw it looked like he only had eyes for the ball and was trying to plant his left foot to shield it, Walker just got there a tad quicker. The force at which he did it though would be reckless so would agree with the red, although I don't think it was a deliberate stamp. Totally agree with this. Watch his face and his eyes are always following the ball. It looks awful in slow motion and in stills but I agree that in the wider context of what happened I think he was genuinely trying to plant his foot down and get his body in front to shield the ball from Walker. I don't think it was a deliberate foul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I love the mental bastard and i'll be gutted if he leaves. Obviously you can't condone what he did to Kyle Walker and the subsequent play acting but that aside, I think he's shown plenty of potential and I love the fact that he's mentally unstable. He wears his heart on his sleeve and you can see he loves the club - he's like a much bigger, dirtier version of Ketsbaia and I loved that crazy fucker as well. I remember our heroes being Andy Cole, Shearer, Les Ferdinand, etc. Ketsbaia and Mitro as heroes? Shows how far NUFC have fallen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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