Guest neesy111 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Wasn't being allowed to jump? As if a manager would prevent that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Wasn't being allowed to jump? As if a manager would prevent that. Maybe that's why he was in the dugout so much more than normal, he couldn't bear to see Mitrovic openly disobeying him by jumping. Well that and disagreeing with the attacking. Honestly man, fuck's sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Wasn't being allowed to jump? As if a manager would prevent that. Maybe that's why he was in the dugout so much more than normal, he couldn't bear to see Mitrovic openly disobeying him by jumping. Well that and disagreeing with the attacking. Honestly man, f***'s sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Didn't seem like he wanted to, or wasn't being allowed to jump by Rafa in the first half, he was much more effective in the second when he started challenging (and winning) balls in the air. Good game overall, still don't want to give up on him, if Murphy had played like he did last night people would be wanking themselves right off. I don't get it. After supporting Tiote for years past any meaningful contribution how haven't you learnt to stop being so wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Such cliche s**** Course it's not a cliche ya daft tw*t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Wasn't being allowed to jump? As if a manager would prevent that. Maybe that's why he was in the dugout so much more than normal, he couldn't bear to see Mitrovic openly disobeying him by jumping. Well that and disagreeing with the attacking. Honestly man, fuck's sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I agree last night was one of his better games, but anyone saying he was 'excellent' has criminally low expectations of our players, or (as is often the case with Mitrovic fans), they're just determined to label every one of his appearances as a success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Wasn't being allowed to jump? As if a manager would prevent that. Maybe that's why he was in the dugout so much more than normal, he couldn't bear to see Mitrovic openly disobeying him by jumping. Well that and disagreeing with the attacking. Honestly man, fuck's sake. I know i talk some shite but that is right up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 One question I have is, why can't Gayle play that role Perez was last night? It certainly wasn't a midfield role, and Gayle is better at everything then Perez is. Would allow us to hold the Ball up and have someone who's going to put away the chances. I'm sure Rafa has some tactical reason as to why it wouldn't work, but I certainly don't see what Perez did that is beyond Gayle's game alongside Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I agree last night was one of his better games, but anyone saying he was 'excellent' has criminally low expectations of our players, or (as is often the case with Mitrovic fans), they're just determined to label every one of his appearances as a success. Spot on! Even the fat twat who ran in the pitch at the end showed more pace than Mitro, and a lot more physicality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Since when has a strikers role been to chest down balls to midfielders to score goals? I agree yesterday was one of Mitro's best performances but he barely troubled the goalkeeper. Don't forget we had 20 corners. A striker would expect to get on the end of quite a few of them, especially one who is supposedly good in the air and good at headers (according to his fan club). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I agree last night was one of his better games, but anyone saying he was 'excellent' has criminally low expectations of our players, or (as is often the case with Mitrovic fans), they're just determined to label every one of his appearances as a success. Spot on! Even the fat twat who ran in the pitch at the end showed more pace than Mitro, and a lot more physicality. It's posts like this that make me think this place needs rubbing out and starting again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Didn't seem like he wanted to, or wasn't being allowed to jump by Rafa in the first half, he was much more effective in the second when he started challenging (and winning) balls in the air. Good game overall, still don't want to give up on him, if Murphy had played like he did last night people would be wanking themselves right off. I don't get it. After supporting Tiote for years past any meaningful contribution how haven't you learnt to stop being so wrong? Not much wrong with the second comment like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 It's total nonsense. No one on here really rates Murphy as anything more than an OK Championship player who's done a better job than some expected. Everyone knows he can't play any further part if we get promoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Since when has a strikers role been to chest down balls to midfielders to score goals? I agree yesterday was one of Mitro's best performances but he barely troubled the goalkeeper. Don't forget we had 20 corners. A striker would expect to get on the end of quite a few of them, especially one who is supposedly good in the air and good at headers (according to his fan club). Link up play has been a part of a center forwards job forever. I mean if you think Mitrovic's contribution last night didn't have a massive impact on us playing well you're crazy. He certainly doesn't have the goal scoring ability necessary to be our main striker. But he can offer something very significant to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 It's total nonsense. Nobody on here really rates Murphy as anything more than an OK Championship player who's done a better job than some expected. Everyone knows he can't play any further part if we get promoted. Don't think it's being suggested that people rate him, quite the opposite really. People accept shit from him, hence if he played like Mitrovic did last night everyone would be signing his praises. Some seem to find it difficult to ever give Mitrovic any credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Frankly, if a £12m target man striker couldn't have a good game holding the ball up against a decent Championship side it would be a fucking disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartizanFC Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 He just dont fit in Rafas system He is not that slow..try to watch games he played for Serbian squad.Every game he scored.Why?He had good croses from Tadic..on the plate...all yesterday croses was not even close to him or he had to step back and hit ball with small strenght Even ground pases was not that quality like he had in our(serbian) squad.Most of the time Darlow find him..he need to fight with one or two central defenders.Most of headers he won,few times he got fouls 20 m from goal but Ritchie and Boldie didnt score.2 yelow cards their defenders made on him.What you need more for man who fight alone in this system.Pitty that Murphy didnt come in..atleast in last half an hour..one of them could better use that corners than shorty Perez I think you expect miracles.Problem in this squad is not strickers.Gayle and Mitro could be even good in the Premiere ligue with better delivery.Midfild is our main problem.Lack of quality solutions when Hayden and Shelvey lost strenght or had bad game.And some better wingers becouse Gouf if far from classy crosser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 20 corners and it was the player who crossed the balls fault Mitro got nowhere near them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Since when has a strikers role been to chest down balls to midfielders to score goals? I agree yesterday was one of Mitro's best performances but he barely troubled the goalkeeper. Don't forget we had 20 corners. A striker would expect to get on the end of quite a few of them, especially one who is supposedly good in the air and good at headers (according to his fan club). Link up play has been a part of a center forwards job forever. I mean if you think Mitrovic's contribution last night didn't have a massive impact on us playing well you're crazy. He certainly doesn't have the goal scoring ability necessary to be our main striker. But he can offer something very significant to the team. Yes, I know hold up play is part of a strikers role. Someone needs to tell Mitro and his fans that the main role of a striker is scoring goals. Our team only really has Gayle and Richie who regularly score goals. We can't afford to have strikers who don't score goals. Chesting passes to our other shot shy players doesn't get many goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 People totally underestimate how hard it is for strikers to play 'bit part' roles and still score goals. Mitro and Murphy have been in and out of the team all season which has effected both of them. If either of them had played from day one and played every week, they'd both have a similar number of goals to Gayle. Mitro has had poor games, Murphy has had poor games, so had Gayle. But Gayle has been given the opportunity to play through his bad games, whereas the others are only in for one or two matches whilst Gayle is rested. Rafa prefers Gayle because he fits his style of football, but that doesn't make Mitro or Murphy total shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Gayle's scoring record in 2017 when he's been in and out of the team with injuries would tend to back that up actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartizanFC Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 20 corners and it was the player who crossed the balls fault Mitro got nowhere near them? yes.Not just itro..noone make any big chance from that croses..we was inefective and every time there was 6,7 our players..Good enough explaination? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 It's total nonsense. Nobody on here really rates Murphy as anything more than an OK Championship player who's done a better job than some expected. Everyone knows he can't play any further part if we get promoted. Don't think it's being suggested that people rate him, quite the opposite really. People accept shit from him, hence if he played like Mitrovic did last night everyone would be signing his praises. Some seem to find it difficult to ever give Mitrovic any credit. The only reason I've ever criticised Mitro is his lack of finishing. Murphy doesn't do much outside of that, but it does look like he can put them away when he gets a chance. For all our twenty corners or however many it was, our only goal came from a defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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