TRon Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Whats the Chance Mbemba gets dropped? Every chance since Clark and Hanley haven't figured much this season, and Rafa's the type who likes to make a point. He's already said there'll be changes for tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Whats the Chance Mbemba gets dropped? I reckon he wouldn't have played this Tuesday even if we had won and he played well against Wolves. I suppose if he doesn't start Saturday you might say he was dropped, but who really knows as it could be a Rafa rotation reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Not too sure if changing your defensive line this often is a good thing. I thought a solid defensive unit was built on consistency and a familiarity of each other's roles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Not too sure if changing your defensive line this often is a good thing. I thought a solid defensive unit was built on consistency and a familiarity of each other's roles? It is if they are doing their jobs. The defence is the area where we've had the least changes to formation to this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Not too sure if changing your defensive line this often is a good thing. I thought a solid defensive unit was built on consistency and a familiarity of each other's roles? Absolutely agree, although i think changes would have happened anyway for the cup game. I think you can rotate full backs ok-ish in the league, but the two CB's need to play together to get an understanding imo and you shouldn't change those positions if it's unnecessary, injuries and form permitting obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I still maintain he's the best CB on our books the same way others maintain we're gonna be champions or that Mitrovic will come good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Are people seriously suggesting Lascelles is better than Mbemba? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I don't think there's much in it. Both have weaknesses and lots to learn. I have very little doubt Lascelles will go on to have a better career, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Lascelles had a bigger impact on the team. Aerial ability and leadership. I don't understand why people rate Chancel so highly. He didn't improve us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 What is it about you and men who have aerial ability ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 In fairness it's pretty important for a centre back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Aye it's a good asset to have, but not necessarily essential. Coloccini was never great in the air but (when he could be arsed) he was one of the best defenders kicking about. Not saying Mbemba has the intelligence or ability that Colo had (or ever will) but it just seems any mention of a CB and TCD is literally frothing at the gash or the mouth depending on whether they are decent in the air or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 A CB needs to be good in the air in the PL, like. It was certainly a priority here under Bobby and KK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 You have to be absolutely exceptional in other areas if you are weak in the air to be a good cb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 A CB needs to be good in the air in the PL, like. It was certainly a priority here under Bobby and KK. I’m certain you don’t rate Colo in the air (well, full stop!) but he was voted as one of the two best CHs in the league by his fellow pros in 2011-12! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 A CB needs to be good in the air in the PL, like. It was certainly a priority here under Bobby and KK. Bobby and Kev once more and we leave 'em dead, we want good with their feet but a freak with their head to say... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 A CB needs to be good in the air in the PL, like. It was certainly a priority here under Bobby and KK. It's like being in the twlight zone. "Not necessarily essential" - errr, yes it is for a PL CB. How many great CB's aren't good in the air? You don't have to be a big lad either. Gallas and Ramos aren't particularly tall but they are good in the air, great leaps and great heading technique/accuracy. I'd rather a slow CB than one that isn't good in the air. Colo was both and apart from 2 PL seasons, he was largely poor. In his better seasons he attacked / judged the flight of the ball so much better and won more of his headers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Whats the Chance Mbemba gets dropped? Fucking 'L' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the radio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 He'll be back in at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the raidio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Pure speculation, like. It's more to do with his godawful performance against Wolves plus Clark's assured displays since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 In retrospect we had no chance last season. We needed someone to come in to make an immediate impact. 12 months later, I don't think he deserves to be in the starting 11. Lascelles and Clarke are better than expected but still.... wasn't Mbemba meant to be the best defender in the division? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the raidio saying his English isnt good and that's why Rafa is wary of playing him Pure speculation, like. It's more to do with his godawful performance against Wolves plus Clark's assured displays since then. By all accounts his attitude wasn't the most committed at the start of the season but hopefully that's changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Still think he is the best of our four. Hope he works his way back in there. All that said, Clark and Lascelles look solid so far so hard for him to do so. Think he got rested and then Clark just looked better when he came in so its a waiting game for the Chancellor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Clark and Lascelles are more suited to this league IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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