xLiaaamx Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 His stamp was nowt compared to what Mounie did to Hayden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I thought he was awful against spurs before the red anyway, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 For all the talk of how we wouldn't miss him we really, really did - he's the one who brings Gayle to life and can release pressure when we're pinned back. Imagine the reaction if he let Mooy go like Merino did today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bordertoon Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I don't think the psychology of it is that complicated. He's likely grown up having the p*ss taken out of him & he's learnt to fight back/stand his ground. He clearly has insecurities though so personalises situations like that as someone trying to "put him in his place" in a similar way & thinks he's being walked over if he lets it go. Another player wouldn't personalise it in the same way & would just see Alli throwing the ball away as him being petulant rather than a lack of respect for whoever wants it. He probably wouldn't respect anyone in that moment. Shelvey took it personally. You may well be on to something here, although I think that the psychology that you're describing is fairly complicated, and certainly more complicated than most of this pull-your-head-in-you-baldy-racist-cunt thread allows for. Putting all my ill-advised Freud stuff to one side, I suppose my broader point is that Shelvey's behaviour does constitute a genuine psychological problem for which he needs and deserves help (that is, a problem pattern that stems from a complicated interplay of thoughts, feelings, and behaviours over time), and it seems like those closest to the situation (his manager and teammates) agree with this, if reports of them getting around him and supporting him are anything to go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bordertoon Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 For all the talk of how we wouldn't miss him we really, really did - he's the one who brings Gayle to life and can release pressure when we're pinned back. Imagine the reaction if he let Mooy go like Merino did today? Completely agree - as frustrating as he can be, Shelvey has a quality and creativity which is sorely lacking throughout the rest of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 We really missed his creativity in the first half against Spurs, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 We really missed his creativity in the first half against Spurs, too. Different scenario really - it's the games you hope to win he might make the difference - one good through ball to Gayle today was all we needed to get something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I really don't think Gayle was capable of anything today no matter what the service was. Didn't look right at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Looked like he wasn't even there, mentally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Anyway, poor performance today. It's like he was invisible at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I really don't think Gayle was capable of anything today no matter what the service was. Didn't look right at all. Aye, probably one for the Gayle thread but he was way off today. Hoping it's just that he missed most of preseason and isn't up to speed yet.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bordertoon Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 We really missed his creativity in the first half against Spurs, too. Take your point, but surely that match (especially in the first half) was a very different test of Shelvey's creative powers? Also, with all but the very best of players, I think that creative powers are something of a hit-and-miss affair. The problem with our squad is that apart from Shelvey, creativity from our centre mid options seems to be a miss-and-miss affair. Perhaps with time Merino can change this for us, which imo could prove very important for our propspects this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 It won't matter if we don't try to take more control of matches. Need to start controlling the posession more. Not talking about dominating, just pushing it closer to 50-50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Terrible own goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The minute that ball hit the back of our net first thing i thought was that our bald cunt should've been doing that for us rather than being in the stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Think I can forgive you Jonjo. Can't stand watching some of the alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Playing for the reserves tonight, free to watch via Nufc.co.uk. See Reserves thread for details. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,60541.8375.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Liked his attitude tonight, unlike Aarons, he didn't just turn up because he was told to, he put in a shift and was driving the team forward, in the last minute of injury time he really should have been played in be a ball squared to him after making a good run. He was playing at 75% speed for sure, which is sensible at that level but he was still focused and was pinging the ball around especially in that first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Mikel-Merino-834157.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I love that this guy hasn't just waltzed straight back into the team. One of the biggest things Rafa has done is create a competitive environment where nobody is guaranteed a spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I love that this guy hasn't just waltzed straight back into the team. One of the biggest things Rafa has done is create a competitive environment where nobody is guaranteed a spot. Yep, we've just won 3 PL games in a row without (more or less) Shelvey and Gayle. Seemed unthinkable last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I love that this guy hasn't just waltzed straight back into the team. One of the biggest things Rafa has done is create a competitive environment where nobody is guaranteed a spot. Yep, we've just won 3 PL games in a row without (more or less) Shelvey and Gayle. Seemed unthinkable last season. We proved on many occasions it wasn't possible! We've played very well last few games but I wouldn't get too excited yet. The liverpool game will be very interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I love that this guy hasn't just waltzed straight back into the team. One of the biggest things Rafa has done is create a competitive environment where nobody is guaranteed a spot. Yep, we've just won 3 PL games in a row without (more or less) Shelvey and Gayle. Seemed unthinkable last season. We proved on many occasions it wasn't possible! We've played very well last few games but I wouldn't get too excited yet. The liverpool game will be very interesting Are you saying we should be judged on how we do against Liverpool rather than the type of teams we've played recently? If so i'd disagree. We need to beat the teams at the bottom and the middle of the league to achieve our goal so i'd rather we did that. There's nothing more frustrating than having a team that loses to s*** sides but then decides to turn it on against the so-called big clubs. And we've had a fair few teams like that to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I love that this guy hasn't just waltzed straight back into the team. One of the biggest things Rafa has done is create a competitive environment where nobody is guaranteed a spot. Yep, we've just won 3 PL games in a row without (more or less) Shelvey and Gayle. Seemed unthinkable last season. We proved on many occasions it wasn't possible! We've played very well last few games but I wouldn't get too excited yet. The liverpool game will be very interesting Are you saying we should be judged on how we do against Liverpool rather than the type of teams we've played recently? If so i'd disagree. We need to beat the teams at the bottom and the middle of the league to achieve our goal so i'd rather we did that. There's nothing more frustrating than having a team that loses to s*** sides but then decides to turn it on against the so-called big clubs. And we've had a fair few teams like that to be fair. No not exactly. I agree with you though and don't get me wrong, so far, so good. I just think the last 3 teams were really poor on the day, coupled with us playing well on the day. I don't expect us to beat liverpool, but if we compete and don't get embarrassed then really bodes well for rest of season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I love that this guy hasn't just waltzed straight back into the team. One of the biggest things Rafa has done is create a competitive environment where nobody is guaranteed a spot. Part of that is down to the players not being that great to start with. Shelvey has a great eye for a pass, but he's not great when we don't have the ball. If he was I think he'd be in for Hayden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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