ohmelads Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 He doesn't looks interested imo and hasn't found any form. Has he even assisted a goal the season? I can't think of any. Was a stupid tackle to get sent off - the players was going no where. He assisted the equaliser against Liverpool. That perfectly weighted ball through their defence, which Joselu did his best to screw up. I agree with what you're saying though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I don't think there's a problem with Shelvey. He needs players in front of him with a bit more confidence making better runs & more often. We are very static up top, both Joselu & Gayle are guilty of that, so we can't expect Shelvey to find the killer ball when it's simply not there to be played. Put him in a team with better attackers and he assists plenty, put him in a squad void of confidence like ours and it's asking too much of one player unfortunately. With that considered, he should be one of the last players we should be looking to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Other than passing (mainly over distance), what’s he good at? Shooting, set pieces. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/006/026/NOTSUREIF.jpg I mean he's no superstar but he can hit a football. 5 goals in 70 appearances for us, all in the championship. Terrible for a midfielder. I don't think he actually runs hard enough to get into goal scoring positions. He's the modern day Richard O'Brien. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I don't think there's a problem with Shelvey. He needs players in front of him with a bit more confidence making better runs & more often. We are very static up top, both Joselu & Gayle are guilty of that, so we can't expect Shelvey to find the killer ball when it's simply not there to be played. Put him in a team with better attackers and he assists plenty, put him in a squad void of confidence like ours and it's asking too much of one player unfortunately. With that considered, he should be one of the last players we should be looking to move on. Should be one of the first. Massive wages. Perhaps high sell-on value. Not rated at that level by Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I think its the same problem we have seen with Shelvey last time we were in the PL. He's shite in a team on the back foot. When we're dominating teams, and he's got plenty of options going forward then he's class. If we're having a go at teams he's able to pick passes at will and has the space and time to play balls through then he shines. However if we're looking to hit teams on the break, defending and transitioning from defence to attack with pace, looking to catch teams out he's fairly useless. Can't cover much ground and press players, doesnt drive forward and get into goal scoring positions and isnt great defensively. While he's not a luxury player, he doesn't really fit in at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Problem is that none of our midfielders look a s I'd they fit in at the moment other than Moreno. Hayden has been poor this season and hasn't managed to step up to the level required for this division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Looks good on the ball but awful off it. Let's runners pass him all the time. He's pointless in a 2 man midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 He’s the ultimate luxury player. Space, time, freedom of the park - he looks good. Remove all of that and what you have is a very very average footballer at this level. Even when he looks good, he’s not exactly creating and scoring to any great extent to justify him as a PL level footballer of note. That said, he’s in the top 5 of our best players behind Lascelles, Merino, Gayle and Atsu. Hardly an endorsement mind as I’d class only Lascelles and Merino as genuine top half PL quality players. His biggest problem outside of his stupidity is his lack of stamina and discipline. He’s in arguably the most difficult and most important part of the pitch and sometimes it’s as if he’s not even on the pitch especially off the ball. On it, for all his long range passing and how good he can look on the ball, again he rarely hurts a team or dictates a game enough to be called a top player. If we could get a few quid for him I’d get shot in an instant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 He’ll get a red tonight and we will never see him again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 He’ll get a red tonight and we will never see him again. Good, I'll take that. Horribly overrated player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I don't wanna rip into the side tonight given the context but I'm sick of this lad offering absolutely nowt game after game. Of the entire squad he's arguably the one with the most skill and raw ability - I still believe that - and certainly one with some of the most PL experience, but he's just shown absolutely nowt this year. Two red cards, minimal effort and nothing positive. Pants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Been our best player when we've had the ball IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Another in a line of people that need peddled ASAP. Offers absolutely nothing and is never a premier league player in a million years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Fucking rock to play against City though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Knew he'd quickly become the one singled out for slating this year when its not going well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 He just dosn't play with the pace needed for this level, he absolutely bosses the championship in slower games and more space but this is a totally different league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Disappointing, lacked his usual composure tonight, but then he wasn't allowed the space he likes when he's playing from deep. Showed his limitations badly as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Knew he'd quickly become the one singled out for slating this year when its not going well. Yep, rightly so. Hasn't given us anywhere near enough considering he's one of the better footballers in the side. Others in the side are doing their best but they're just gash. Shelvey's got it in him to make it into the England side, but he doesn't make the right decisions anywhere often enough and he's a liability from a discipline point of view. He improved in the second half tonight, mind you, and I'd keep him in the side going forward. He and Merino are technically the two best players in the side and I still think they're our best chance at formulating a midfield that's creative and retains possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 No red card, but he’s just not good enough, but then I could say that about most. He was disciplined and did a job Rafa obviously wanted from him so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 The lads useless - he's had more red cards than assists this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Thought he did ok tonight, especially 2nd half when we seen a bit more of the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Thought he was canny. He's good on the ball and mostly useless off it. But defensively okay tonight. Everyone had to be that at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 No point in him if he doesn't provide the odd banger from range. Sick of these tame efforts from distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Disappointed with his dead balls. We had the height to cause them problems but he was profligate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Wasn't impressed at all. Passes all over the shop, speculative shots off target and no athleticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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