joeyt Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Thought he played really well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 This is the type of game for Shelvey, he was canny good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Has to play, forward looking passes all the time. I know he can be a pain in the arse but on song he's a level above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I think having Murphy, Atsu and Perez ahead of him to give him options to pick out helped, Joselu and Gayle to a lesser extent have been too static at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 He works well when there is some pace in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Much better today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Better today but his deliveries from set pieces are woeful. He's supposed to be a specialist but in reality he's just shite. Charlie Adams corners in the last ten minutes had us under constant pressure. He's a pub footballer but his set dead ball stuff puts our lads to shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Stoke just let him ping balls out wide, which seems like a very basic tactical oversight from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 He was good today. Also threw his arms in the air at the final whistle, so maybe he does care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Good game today. Worked very hard off the ball and was extremely economical with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Yeah, thought he was great. His effort defensively is so much better it's incredible really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Excellent today - countless long, pinpoint diagonals out to the wingers which allowed us to go from defence to attack really quickly. Much more like it, although as KI says Adam and Allen gave him acres of space to pick his passes. Clearly a great option against a certain type of opponent though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Mind he was afforded loads of space and time on the ball like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Very true. I was surprised by that early on. When he is marked tightly it's not as good at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Looked like he gave a shit and really grafted on both ends of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 One of his better games today. Passing was much improved today - more decisive and quicker. Hope he can keep it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 My concern is that a lot of times he just lumps it directly to the other team. Especially when we have our backs to the wall, as a senior MFer, he needs to hold the ball and be a lot more calm and calculated. Edit: Still played some great balls out to Murphy today, though. And definitely one of his most improved games for us recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Mind he was afforded loads of space and time on the ball like. Aye, you give him space like that and he's going to hurt you, especially with pacy options to look for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 My concern is that a lot of times he just lumps it directly to the other team. Especially when we have our backs to the wall, as a senior MFer, he needs to hold the ball and be a lot more calm and calculated. Edit: Still played some great balls out to Murphy today, though. And definitely one of his most improved games for us recently. He really doesn't. He's usually either trying a very difficult attacking pass or is looking for runners into channels when we have nothing on. He certainly doesn't just lump it long back to the opposition. Because of this and the fact he's one of the few willing to take risks with his passing he will naturally give the ball away a lot more than our sideways and backwards merchants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 My concern is that a lot of times he just lumps it directly to the other team. Especially when we have our backs to the wall, as a senior MFer, he needs to hold the ball and be a lot more calm and calculated. Edit: Still played some great balls out to Murphy today, though. And definitely one of his most improved games for us recently. He really doesn't. He's usually either trying a very difficult attacking pass or is looking for runners into channels when we have nothing on. He certainly doesn't just lump it long back to the opposition. Because of this and the fact he's one of the few willing to take risks with his passing he will naturally give the ball away a lot more than our sideways and backwards merchants. Watch the last few games when he's not played well. I do think this is a symptom though of just him constantly looking for those attacking passes, as you've said, rather than Dummett-style lumping (that's not what I meant). I think maturity really needs to come his way, both for his temperament and overall play. Again, no complaints today. He even closed down and pressed higher up the pitch today to break up their absurd long balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 My concern is that a lot of times he just lumps it directly to the other team. Especially when we have our backs to the wall, as a senior MFer, he needs to hold the ball and be a lot more calm and calculated. Edit: Still played some great balls out to Murphy today, though. And definitely one of his most improved games for us recently. He really doesn't. He's usually either trying a very difficult attacking pass or is looking for runners into channels when we have nothing on. He certainly doesn't just lump it long back to the opposition. Because of this and the fact he's one of the few willing to take risks with his passing he will naturally give the ball away a lot more than our sideways and backwards merchants. Watch the last few games when he's not played well. I do think this is a symptom though of just him constantly looking for those attacking passes, as you've said, rather than Dummett-style lumping (that's not what I meant). I think maturity really needs to come his way, both for his temperament and overall play. Again, no complaints today. He even closed down and pressed higher up the pitch today to break up their absurd long balls. Agreed, he needs better players around him for us to make the most of us passing ability. He did well today. Merino suffered from similar problems against Brighton. No one else wanted the ball and he kept giving it away as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On the basis of talent he's our best player. On the basis of application and consistency in accordance with that talent, he has to go. If he can't do it regularly for Rafa who can he do it regularly for? Last year he looked a cut above, this year he looks talented but unreliable. Can't do with that at this level. In a better team he might get away with it, but we are shite and nobody good is remotely interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 He's the last of our worries right now, and we need more than 11 players. He certainly hasn't got to go as you put it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Rafael Marquez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 It was a demonstration of why he wouldn't be effective at #10 - he's at his best pinging 60 yard balls, which has no value when you're 40 yards from goal. Further, he's afforded space in his own half/centre circle, but he's not going to get that on the edge of their box... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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