TRon Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Back to Shelvey, I think Rafa had high hopes for him this season and wanted to make him an integral part of the team, but that red card against Spurs probably was the last straw. If he could do that, how can he be relied on to build a team around? I just think he lacks stamina. That video of him with his hands on his knees trying to catch his breath when he was at Swansea - I've seen him looking like that after an hour for us as well. We definitely need to go back to a three man midfield again, don't think Merino's a lot better in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Back to Shelvey, I think Rafa had high hopes for him this season and wanted to make him an integral part of the team, but that red card against Spurs probably was the last straw. If he could do that, how can he be relied on to build a team around? I just think he lacks stamina. That video of him with his hands on his knees trying to catch his breath when he was at Swansea - I've seen him looking like that after an hour for us as well. We definitely need to go back to a three man midfield again, don't think Merino's a lot better in that regard. You right about his lack of stamina, it’s very noticeable. I don’t think there is anything that can be done about that, you either have it or you don’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Agreed. Great footballer but he’s a pretty awful athlete Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Back to Shelvey, I think Rafa had high hopes for him this season and wanted to make him an integral part of the team, but that red card against Spurs probably was the last straw. If he could do that, how can he be relied on to build a team around? I just think he lacks stamina. That video of him with his hands on his knees trying to catch his breath when he was at Swansea - I've seen him looking like that after an hour for us as well. We definitely need to go back to a three man midfield again, don't think Merino's a lot better in that regard. You right about his lack of stamina, it’s very noticeable. I don’t think there is anything that can be done about that, you either have it or you don’t. Fair to say then, he probably looks a lot better when we are sitting deep and he can play at his own pace? You can understand why he would be decent in a typical Rafa line up usually. I say usually because we haven't played a typical Rafa line up for the last few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Has to be 4-3-3 really. We have no decent #10 types, 3 decent mids and 2 pacy wingers. Shelvey takes the set pieces, bench Ritchie for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 He’s not even a great footballer. He’s great at passing. Toni Kroos is a great footballer, average athlete. If we could get good money for Shelvey I would sell him if we can reinvest it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 We need him, we wouldn't get a more game-changing player in his position for less than £25 million. He can win matches but first he needs to play matches. I want to see us revert back to 4231 with Gayle leading the line, and Shelvey really trying to make the most of his runs. I'd say we have about 5 players with match-winning quality in the whole squad and those are definitely two of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 We can’t play 433 our attack would be so isolated as we would have no one to link the play. Sure we can play Joselu or Mitrovic but given we don’t dominate possession we would end up getting pinned back with two strikers who lack mobility and Gayle who can’t really hold the ball up or play with his back to goal. If we had say Gray up front we could get away with a 433 as he has pace and can play with his back to goal. Please try to consider how these systems play out when being critical of the manager as it will help you understand his decision making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 We can’t play 433 our attack would be so isolated as we would have no one to link the play. Sure we can play Joselu or Mitrovic but given we don’t dominate possession we would end up getting pinned back with two strikers who lack mobility and Gayle who can’t really hold the ball up or play with his back to goal. If we had say Gray up front we could get away with a 433 as he has pace and can play with his back to goal. Please try to consider how these systems play out when being critical of the manager as it will help you understand his decision making. I know what you're saying, but I'm glad we don't have Gray upfront, he's not very good. He actually has less goals than Joselu in the league this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 It would need to be a huge fee and it would need to all be spent. Otherwise it would be a suicidal decision. Yeah selling our only creative outlet would be madness Also not playing him is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 It would need to be a huge fee and it would need to all be spent. Otherwise it would be a suicidal decision. Yeah selling our only creative outlet would be madness Also not playing him is Aye if he's not going to play. Move him on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 What a fucking melon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Bit fucking shit the double standards shown between this cunt and Mitrovic like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Didn’t fancy Arsenal, don’t blame him. Back to Hayden and Merino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Sell him in January, he's a fucking liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjack Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Sell him in January, he's a f***ing liability. Disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Love the way he lazily flicked his leg at a very winnable ball about 30 seconds before he booked himself a weekend off. Overrated, lazy, liability. He can get fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 They were on the break and he won the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 He did absolutely nothing wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Irredeemable cunt in my eyes. Need to fucking go. Not hated one of our own as much as I hate Shelvey since the Owen days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 He did absolutely nothing wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Excited for the day this prick goes. And that was BEFORE his red tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Won't be seen again. Thick as mince. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 He's a fucking moron but the ref couldn't send him off quick enough. Can't appeal either. Fucking arseholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Can’t be trusted, fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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