WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Played well today but isn’t irreplaceable. There’s others who can switch play in one move. Shop well in January and we can gladly say goodbye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Credit where credit's due, the knacker played well today. Hopefully he continues like that all the way though January before he's peddled and replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Jonjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Absolutely fantastic today. Can do things no other player in the team could even dream of with that passing range. Toss up between him and Joelinton for MOTM. Joelinton better 1st half but faded a bit after half time and that slip proved costly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bompeter Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Will inevitably revert to type soon and leave people feeling like dickheads for allowing themselves to forget what an absolute waste of space clown he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) Looked so good today man. Shocked at how well he closed down and also won the ball. Might just be that Howe is the type of manager that gets through to him, if so that would be great, because he can add a lot to the team. Let down by his midfield partner today really, as Willock was poor in that central midfield role. It was interesting watching match of the day and seeing them highlight in the Chelsea game how Jorginho sat deeper and pinged balls about, while Kante got further forward and tried to create overloads higher up the pitch, in their 3-4-3. We seemed to try to mimick that partnership a bit with Jonjo deep and Willock getting forward, but Willock just didn't do enough at all. Edited November 20, 2021 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Interesting that that he was the one player that Howe singled out by name before the game. Made it clear that Shevley would be important to our success. And he responded. Hope the Jedi mind tricks can work long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Bompeter said: Will inevitably revert to type soon and leave people feeling like dickheads for allowing themselves to forget what an absolute waste of space clown he is. If he does, he'll be dropped like a brick. Howe won't tolerate that, I think we've seen that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, gazza ladra said: Interesting that that he was the one player that Howe singled out by name before the game. Made it clear that Shevley would be important to our success. And he responded. Hope the Jedi mind tricks can work long term. Did the same with Joelinton too, and he was also very good against Brentford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 It doesn't excuse his shite performances over the last few years but he can be an asset when players are passing and moving around him and creating space rather than just standing still and we saw that yesterday for the first time in a long time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Best performance for a long time with him but it's still a liability having him and Willock in CM. Brentford went through us with ease at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, neesy111 said: Best performance for a long time with him but it's still a liability having him and Willock in CM. Brentford went through us with ease at times. Ideally we’d get rid of Shelvey from the team, find a competent anchor man type defensive midfielder who is mobile and can pass the ball quickly to free up a Willock and especially ASM while also giving the defence a certain level of protection. Which we have none of in midfield and asking Shlevey to be that and also be creative, well he’s a liability in general in both senses, great for the odd Hollywood ball though… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, neesy111 said: Best performance for a long time with him but it's still a liability having him and Willock in CM. Brentford went through us with ease at times. We're so desperate for a central midfielder it's unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, toon25 said: We're so desperate for a central midfielder it's unreal. ...and central defenders ....and full backs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 was shocked to see his bald pate covered in sweat all game. Fair play to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 21/11/2021 at 00:23, gazza ladra said: Interesting that that he was the one player that Howe singled out by name before the game. Made it clear that Shevley would be important to our success. And he responded. Hope the Jedi mind tricks can work long term. What Howe said was absolutely right, Shelvey is technically a very good footballer. We knew this already. The bleep tests mean there's nowhere to hide for any player, they will have to get to a certain fitness level or they will be out of the team. With Jonjo we've been here before, he's talked about a strict new fitness regime with Rafa, and just recently with Bruce where he said he was going to start cutting out the after match drinking. Who knows though. Maybe playing a more attacking brand of football will inspire him to keep it going this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I had a feeling he'd look better this weekend based on us getting men forwards and having more to aim for and more movement around him. Pleasingly he seemed to put a shift in, I just think we maybe could have done with Hayden rather than Willock to do a little more dirty work. Still can't stand the moody workshy cunt but Saturday was the first green shoot we've seen from him in about four year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Played a bit further forward, he seemed to have on average 4-5 players to pass forward to, as opposed to 1-2 and it was noticeable how much more effort he put in. It may well change under Howe's system. But currently, he seems to be the only midfielder at the club capable of passing the ball forward, whether that is long or short. He played really well. One thing I did notice, despite the improved work rate. Was that he would still regularly go in to press, when he was clearly not going to get there, due to how immobile he is. Then he would just get easily passed or dribbled round, whilst he is stood still and is completely taken out of the game. He has never been mobile and it seems like there have always been attitude problems throughout his career. But maybe with the right coach and fitness regime. He might manage to improve the defensive side of his game. As whilst it made a refreshing change seeing him sprint. It was still ineffective a lot of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Saturday was the best he's played since Man United (h) in February 2018, when we won 1-0. That day he assisted the goal and worked tirelessly off the ball, closing players down, winning the ball back. The weekend was reminiscent of that, but he simply has to keep that up. When he's like that he's superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I really want to like him, the way he plays the game is brilliant at times. Even his composure to take little touches under pressure and relieve his teammates a bit is class. Rafa binned him pretty much instantly, either he wouldn't get onboard with what Rafa wanted or Rafa just believed he was beyond help. Massive open question whether he can maintain this kind of form, and also with who we put beside him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Saturday was the best he's played since Man United (h) in February 2018, when we won 1-0. That day he assisted the goal and worked tirelessly off the ball, closing players down, winning the ball back. The weekend was reminiscent of that, but he simply has to keep that up. When he's like that he's superb. When was Bournemouth away, where he had the freedom of the whole town? He ran the show that day and we won 4-1 or 4-0 from memory. Should have been a lot more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: When was Bournemouth away, where he had the freedom of the whole town? He ran the show that day and we won 4-1 or 4-0 from memory. Should have been a lot more. Was after the restart. I remember Maxi getting 3 assists that day, don't remember Shelvey being great at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 He made a bad decision for their third goal. Not sure why he ran over to to try double up on a player and just left Onyeka and gave him a free shot. Murphy was about to win the ball back That aside he looked okay on highlights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 First time I've ever seen his head covered in sweat. He worked hard and played well and was let down by Willocks poor performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, ManDoon said: He made a bad decision for their third goal. Not sure why he ran over to to try double up on a player and just left Onyeka and gave him a free shot. Murphy was about to win the ball back That aside he looked okay on highlights I think there was such a desire to press as instructed that we then went steaming in to win the ball back a bit carelessly at times and the ball ran through for them to capitalise. Happened on both their first goal and their last one. Good to see the effort from the team, but just needed to be a bit more under control when going for the ball. Think we'll get better at that as they continue to work on the new approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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