TRon Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Lenny said: I think we've missed him, too. Him in the sitting role releases Bruno a bit more, that alone makes him really important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Unsurprising yet still surprising how excited I am with the prospect of having him back after several years of hoping he was moved on and replaced in each upcoming window. He hasn't done too much wrong under Howe and has been a great contributor. Still needs replacing but has a future here in the team in the short term and squad for the mid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) I expected Bruno to be starting in that position this season even if he was fit but I’m not so sure anymore, think he’d be pushed up alongside Joe with Shelvey sitting for more games than often when he’s back now Edited September 16, 2022 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Amazed at how much we actually miss him. So much more quality with him rather than Willock or Longstaff, even if Shelvey is just an "option", he's a bloody good one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Definitely one of those players who contributes far more with good players around him. I don’t see him being here much longer, but he’s obviously a better option than Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Definitely one of those players who contributes far more with good players around him. I don’t see him being here much longer, but he’s obviously a better option than Longstaff. He does a specific job reasonably well, collects the ball from the back, distributes well, and doesn't give the ball away much. His movement off the ball is still rubbish, but yes, he will be upgraded in the next year or so I would imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 So glad he’s not Scott McTominay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolberto Disco Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Rather McTominay than Shelvey. McTominay can actually run, track back, and pass a ball to someone in the same shirt. Jonjo was at his best in the Championship. He was a Championship Zidane. He can't be relied on to provide any consistent level of performance. He can strike a ball, yes, ping a pass yes - play CM in the Premier League, I'd say no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Nolberto Disco said: Rather McTominay than Shelvey. McTominay can actually run, track back, and pass a ball to someone in the same shirt. Jonjo was at his best in the Championship. He was a Championship Zidane. He can't be relied on to provide any consistent level of performance. He can strike a ball, yes, ping a pass yes - play CM in the Premier League, I'd say no. I'd by and large agree, we were better when Rafa dropped him, but he did very well under Howe, I had thought we shouldn't trust him but if Howe can get a consistent tune out of him would be happy for him to be back. We were after a midfielder in summer but didn't get one, I imagine we will be back in January for one so unfortunately for him he does have shelf life but if he comes back he is certainly an upgrade on Longstaff or Willock and i say this as someone who has been advocating for Shelvey to be phased out for some time. It's just if he can be consistent Edited September 16, 2022 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolberto Disco Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiresias said: I'd by and large agree, we were better when Rafa dropped him, but he did very well under Howe, I had thought we shouldn't trust him but if Howe can get a consistent tune out of him would be happy for him to be back. We were after a midfielder in summer but didn't get one, I imagine we will be back in January for one so unfortunately for him he does have shelf life but if he comes back he is certainly an upgrade on Longstaff or Willock and i say this as someone who has been advocating for Shelvey to be phased out for some time. It's just if he can be consistent Considering the position we are in now, Jonjo Shelvey should be nothing more than a mascot. Rafa brought Shelvey in, Eddie brought Bruno in. He was given an extended contract under Ashley. Not one Premier League club would take Shelvey right now. I've never liked him, and never will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Nolberto Disco said: Considering the position we are in now, Jonjo Shelvey should be nothing more than a mascot. Rafa brought Shelvey in, Eddie brought Bruno in. He was given an extended contract under Ashley. Not one Premier League club would take Shelvey right now. I've never liked him, and never will. I think McClaren brought Shelvey in. Could be wrong like, can’t be arsed to check Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Yeah it was Schteve, same window we brought Townsend in. For what its worth, Shelvey has been in his best form with us since Howe came in. I expect he’ll play his 3 games and it’ll trigger a 1 or 2 year extension, over which he’ll gradually be phased out of the team as we bring in another CM or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Nolberto Disco said: Considering the position we are in now, Jonjo Shelvey should be nothing more than a mascot. Rafa brought Shelvey in, Eddie brought Bruno in. He was given an extended contract under Ashley. Not one Premier League club would take Shelvey right now. I've never liked him, and never will. Eh? He'd walk straight back into our first 11 right now if he was fit. The Shelvey anchor role with Bruno and Joe either side is the best balanced our midfield has looked in this system. Long-term Bruno might take over that role but until we have someone who can play as an 8 who can assist and score like he does he's wasted there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Tiresias said: I'd by and large agree, we were better when Rafa dropped him, but he did very well under Howe, I had thought we shouldn't trust him but if Howe can get a consistent tune out of him would be happy for him to be back. We were after a midfielder in summer but didn't get one, I imagine we will be back in January for one so unfortunately for him he does have shelf life but if he comes back he is certainly an upgrade on Longstaff or Willock and i say this as someone who has been advocating for Shelvey to be phased out for some time. It's just if he can be consistent Lack of consistency is a harsh accusation when he was consistently in form under Howe for the last 9 months which included 6 months of us playing to Top 4 form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Not only have we missed him for what he brings, but we've missed him for what he allows Bruno to bring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 12 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Not only have we missed him for what he brings, but we've missed him for what he allows Bruno to bring. We've missed the ability to drop Willock. Somebody somewhere asked how the hell Willocj ever managed to be a scorer and I just remembered it came not long after Willock had a little whinge about not starting. Think he needs a little encouragement again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Ironically could’ve used someone like Shelvey today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) Willock's obviously the whipping boy on here like. I said it before but you're mad if you came out of that match singling out Willock as the problem, he was probably our best midfielder today. Bruno was off it and Joelinton put in the worst performance I've ever seen from him. Saying all that, I do think Willock needs a rest considering how much he's played and Shelvey coming in also means pushing Bruno forward where he's more effective. Edited September 17, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 When this lad got sent off against Spurs last season and we’d just been taken over I couldn’t wait to get him out of the club. Completely changed my opinion on him since then, his attitude has been very good and he’s been one of our most consistent players since Howe came in. He’s not an amazing player due to his lack of athleticism and his dribbling quality, but his reading of the game and his passing is great and offers us something completely different from our other options Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, gbandit said: When this lad got sent off against Spurs last season and we’d just been taken over I couldn’t wait to get him out of the club. Completely changed my opinion on him since then, his attitude has been very good and he’s been one of our most consistent players since Howe came in. He’s not an amazing player due to his lack of athleticism and his dribbling quality, but his reading of the game and his passing is great and offers us something completely different from our other options With the current squad he would release Bruno to a more advanced position. Can't see him being a first team regular though when (hopefully) we bring somebody in like Maddison in the next window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 although he could have brought a bit of stability to yesterday that got a bit fragmented, I`m hardly yearning for his return. Seeing him gasping for a couple of metres as he's skipped by coupled by his miserable fucking bracket isn't getting me any kind of excited Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 On 17/09/2022 at 21:48, Kid Icarus said: Willock's obviously the whipping boy on here like. I said it before but you're mad if you came out of that match singling out Willock as the problem, he was probably our best midfielder today. Bruno was off it and Joelinton put in the worst performance I've ever seen from him. Saying all that, I do think Willock needs a rest considering how much he's played and Shelvey coming in also means pushing Bruno forward where he's more effective. Thought Bruno played well as did Joelinton yesterday. Thought in general everyone played canny yesterday. Not too dissimilar to second half of last season. Only difference is we were on the right side of slender results then whereas this season we aren’t. Actual performances and effort aren’t too dissimilar. It’s a funny old game ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 So question time, who hypothetically would make way for Maddison if he were to arrive. You would think ASM, Wilson, Isak would be nailed down when at full strength. So is it someone in midfield to go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 52 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: So question time, who hypothetically would make way for Maddison if he were to arrive. You would think ASM, Wilson, Isak would be nailed down when at full strength. So is it someone in midfield to go? I would imagine it would be Willock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Big Joe showed yesterday why he’ll be the first one to go unfortunately. Absolutely love the bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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