Foluwashola Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 He won't admit we're down until its mathematically set in stone. Just the kind of man he is, he wants to continue to instill a growth mindset of belief. This is literally every manager ever tbf Oh of course, I mean we've had a couple at our club like Pardew and Carver that continually filled us with joy and hope when under the threat of relegation. Do you ever get tired of talking shite? Are you alright mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Even if the mad bastard wanted to stay next season, he'd have to take a huge pay cut for Ashley to even consider it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I'm of the opinion that Rafa probably wants to stay here, but he doesn't really fancy a season in the championship because for a manager of his calibre that could damage his reputation. That said, I think that he wants to be here because we are a similar club to Liverpool and that is the environment he really seems to thrive on. So I wouldn't be that surprised if he stayed on - if anything it's us who would throw a spanner in the works because that's what we do best. That's exactly the way I see it. He left Valencia because he was frustrated at the lack of control over signings. He said at Liverpool that the money isn't important (he's already rich and being even richer is not a motivator for him). I'm sure he joined NUFC because of the fans. The passion. Rafa doesn't give a fuck. The only thing Rafa gives is absolutely everything he has. He doesn't know any other way. He sees that NUFC fans are the same. I've always considered LFC and NUFC to be very similar in that regard (though I expect to get shat on for saying that here). The big difference is that, with the exception of those American parasites, we've had better luck with the owners. Not exceptional by any means, but at least benign and they tend to take a long-term view. My take on NUFC (from outside) is that pretty much all the problems the club has and has had are, and always have been as far back as I can remember, caused by the top-shelf bellends that have owned and controlled the club. The reaction to Rafa's signing has absolutely floored me. Previously, I always thought you didn't think much of the fella. That he was just more grist for Parky's wheel. I don't know whether Rafa will fuck off if, invisible man in the sky forbid, NUFC goes down. But that's not his way. The get-out clause absolutely came from the club. Whether the motivation for having the clause was to attract a top-notch manager in the first place (and give him a way out) or to get his salary off the books in case the worst happens, I cannot say. But I can promise you, absolutely, Rafa does not give a fuck about it. You're his club now. You get everything he has to give till the day he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Unless I've missed something, Rafa's got a 3 and a bit years contract with a get out clause on his side if we go down. I would have thought the "management" of our club would have been so desperate to get Rafa that they wouldn't have thought, or dared, to put in a get out clause on their side of the contract. Hopefully, it's solely his call whether to stay or not, regardless of results this season. I still think he'll fuck off if we go down though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Unless I've missed something, Rafa's got a 3 and a bit years contract with a get out clause on his side if we go down. I would have thought the "management" of our club would have been so desperate to get Rafa that they wouldn't have thought, or dared, to put in a get out clause on their side of the contract. Hopefully, it's solely his call whether to stay or not, regardless of results this season. I still think he'll fuck off if we go down though. OTOH, they might have felt the get-out clause would be necessary to get him in the first place. It's not like Rafa would have said, "nah, we don't need that." He's not an idiot. Like I said, it will in no way affect his work for the club. Flexible employment terms > inflexible employment terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Even if the mad b****** wanted to stay next season, he'd have to take a huge pay cut for Ashley to even consider it. i doubt it. .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Even if the mad b****** wanted to stay next season, he'd have to take a huge pay cut for Ashley to even consider it. i doubt it. .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I am the Newcastle manager and I am going to be Newcastle manager next year That's surprisingly unequivocal. Where's that from? Most articles say he 'wants' to be here next season rather than 'will' be. Then when asked if he would stay if we got relegated, he said he has confidence we will stay in the PL and that's it. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/506791/Newcastle-manager-rafa-benitez-season-premier-league-spain-Southampton-shock-revelation What the fuck kind of newspaper is this? Got "news" on their front page about a woman with a worm in her vagina and the information that pornstars seem to think a penis the size of a forearm is optimal, which is bad news for the "average guy" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 The only reason I'm bothered about going down is losing Rafa really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 "I can see a lot of players working so hard in training, so I still believe we can change the situation. I’m very competitive.” I notice he doesn't say ALL of the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Even if the mad bastard wanted to stay next season, he'd have to take a huge pay cut for Ashley to even consider it. If he wants Newcastle back in the premiership he wont. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I bet in 2008-9 he'd have looked at Taylor as someone to exploit, yet here he is starting him over Lascelles. May have cost us our status. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I bet in 2008-9 he'd have looked at Taylor as someone to exploit, yet here he is starting him over Lascelles. May have cost us our status. [emoji38]no not really. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Well yeah. He's been at fault two weeks in a row so there's a 3 point gap over Norwich. We know what he's like and we're seeing shite like the goal and that back pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Disagree personally we kept hold of the previous useless cunt far too long and manage to make a hash of both Windows in the process. Picking Saylor is due to the lack of options and the overall poor quality of our defence. Lascellas has had a couple of steady games but he's no fucking world beater. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Maybe the shitter we are, the more sorry Rafa feels for us and the more he wants to take us back up. Or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 As I said last week. There's absolutely no point in starting Steven Taylor over Lascelles. World-class manager or not that is the wrong choice... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Lascellas has had a couple of steady games but he's no fucking world beater. He only has to be vaguely competent at the basic aspects of defending to be a far better option than Taylor, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I can't understand why Gini is starting especially in cm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I can't understand why Gini is starting especially in cm Think the idea is he links the attack and midfield with Shelvey as the Pivot. I can only assume he feels no one else is suitable to play the role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 You do not appoint Rafa to keep you up with 10 games to go, not at a club that has been fighting relegation for a few years and has a rotten set of players. His methods take time. Regardless, I don't think anyone could keep this sorry bunch up. They should never have appointed SMC in the first place and should not have stuck by him for so long. Everyone at that club deserves relegation except for Rafa and his staff and the general day to day and match staff. The owner, the MD, Carr, the players, the fans... they all deserve what's coming. Popcorn time for me, I hope the whole shit stain of a club that used to be Newcastle United crashes and burns. Rafa is far too good for this club, I hope he doesn't stay on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Yeah I kinda wish he had never come here tbh, fake optimisim, if only for a week or two makes this so much harder to deal with. I hope we go down to division 1, Ashley finallys sells the club and we can start rebuilding, as until he is gone we will never be ran properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I can't understand why Gini is starting especially in cm Think the idea is he links the attack and midfield with Shelvey as the Pivot. I can only assume he feels no one else is suitable to play the role. Touching the ball once in a while would be handy for this role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I bet in 2008-9 he'd have looked at Taylor as someone to exploit, yet here he is starting him over Lascelles. May have cost us our status. It's always a massive problem when you get a new manager in who doesn't know which players will let him down. He's gone for experience in Taylor and it's turned out as expected. What's really cost us has been those back to back wins before Christmas. If we'd got someone in then we would have had time to turn it round. We might have spent that money in January on players who could make a difference as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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