TRon Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 He's a top class manager that's desperate to manage in England, so desperate in fact that he came here. They'd be mental to not go for him in some shape or form IMO. Are they going to share the "You'll never walk alone" Merseyside anthem anytime soon as well then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Everton is the obvious linkof course but they could be tempted to look at the guy who's just been dumped by Watford for no apparent reason. I've just got a feeling that's how that one plays out, wouldn't surprise me at all if a club of the stature of Watford (not necessarily them but a PL club not at Everton's level) make a big play to land Rafa. he could be tempted as it would be a much safer bet than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Rafa's not going to Watford, like. And I'd think De Boer and Pellegrini are ahead of him for the Everton job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Carragher can fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Rafa to Watford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Rafa to Watford Any more ludicrous than Rafa staying with a Sky Bet league team ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Rafa to Watford Any more ludicrous than Rafa staying with a Sky Bet league team ? Pretty much, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We're a much bigger team than Watford. Going there would be a massively short-termist thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Pre match press conference at 12.30 today...got to think he'll be asked if he's staying, be interesting to see how he plays it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We're a much bigger team than Watford. Going there would be a massively short-termist thing to do. We are a much bigger club than Swansea, Southampton or Stoke it could be argued, but they are now established PL sides who for the most part haven't been flirting with relegation year on year and who seem to have a strategy for some improvement on and off the pitch. We are owned by an idiot, ran by idiots and have no strategy or plan in place (any that makes sense anyway) for improving. Watford could easily fall into the 'Stoke' category of sides if they get their next appointment correct. Playing the we are bigger than you card needs some revision in my opinion. Far 'bigger' clubs than the Watfords of this world have been languishing in the second tier of football for years now. To dismiss the Watford link smacks of arrogance to me. Thanks to Ashley we really are a toxic choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Pre match press conference at 12.30 today...got to think he'll be asked if he's staying, be interesting to see how he plays it "Focusing on the last match, will focus on it after that." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We're a much bigger team than Watford. Going there would be a massively short-termist thing to do. We are a much bigger club than Swansea, Southampton or Stoke it could be argued, but they are now established PL sides who for the most part haven't been flirting with relegation year on year and who seem to have a strategy for some improvement on and off the pitch. We are owned by an idiot, ran by idiots and have no strategy or plan in place (any that makes sense anyway) for improving. Watford could easily fall into the 'Stoke' category of sides if they get their next appointment correct. Playing the we are bigger than you card needs some revision in my opinion. Far 'bigger' clubs than the Watfords of this world have been languishing in the second tier of football for years now. To dismiss the Watford link smacks of arrogance to me. Thanks to Ashley we really are a toxic choice. I wouldn't dismiss them becuase of that, i would rule them out because they change their managers so often that it wouldn't suit Rafa at all. Especially if he's looking to build something somewhere, Watford is 100% not the place for him to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Agreed. The arguments seemed to be based on the 'my dads bigger than your dad' stance though mate which I personally think is wrong. The short term approach they are taking has to bite them in the arse eventually you would think. If they were to change that I wouldn't be as confident of him not looking at their set up and saying yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We're a much bigger team than Watford. Going there would be a massively short-termist thing to do. We are a much bigger club than Swansea, Southampton or Stoke it could be argued, but they are now established PL sides who for the most part haven't been flirting with relegation year on year and who seem to have a strategy for some improvement on and off the pitch. We are owned by an idiot, ran by idiots and have no strategy or plan in place (any that makes sense anyway) for improving. Watford could easily fall into the 'Stoke' category of sides if they get their next appointment correct. Playing the we are bigger than you card needs some revision in my opinion. Far 'bigger' clubs than the Watfords of this world have been languishing in the second tier of football for years now. To dismiss the Watford link smacks of arrogance to me. Thanks to Ashley we really are a toxic choice. I wouldn't dismiss them becuase of that, i would rule them out because they change their managers so often that it wouldn't suit Rafa at all. Especially if he's looking to build something somewhere, Watford is 100% not the place for him to do that. You'd argue that we're not in the habit of being builders either. Not that I think he's off to Watford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We're a much bigger team than Watford. Going there would be a massively short-termist thing to do. We are a much bigger club than Swansea, Southampton or Stoke it could be argued, but they are now established PL sides who for the most part haven't been flirting with relegation year on year and who seem to have a strategy for some improvement on and off the pitch. We are owned by an idiot, ran by idiots and have no strategy or plan in place (any that makes sense anyway) for improving. Watford could easily fall into the 'Stoke' category of sides if they get their next appointment correct. Playing the we are bigger than you card needs some revision in my opinion. Far 'bigger' clubs than the Watfords of this world have been languishing in the second tier of football for years now. To dismiss the Watford link smacks of arrogance to me. Thanks to Ashley we really are a toxic choice. I wouldn't dismiss them becuase of that, i would rule them out because they change their managers so often that it wouldn't suit Rafa at all. Especially if he's looking to build something somewhere, Watford is 100% not the place for him to do that. You'd argue that we're not in the habit of being builders either. Not that I think he's off to Watford. Very true, although i'm running with the assumption that we've seen the light and will hand Rafa what he wants. (hope, it'll kill me won't it) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Agreed. The arguments seemed to be based on the 'my dads bigger than your dad' stance though mate which I personally think is wrong. The short term approach they are taking has to bite them in the arse eventually you would think. If they were to change that I wouldn't be as confident of him not looking at their set up and saying yes. I suppose they will say it's worked so far, but i agree with you, i think it will bite them on the arse eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We're a much bigger team than Watford. Going there would be a massively short-termist thing to do. We are a much bigger club than Swansea, Southampton or Stoke it could be argued, but they are now established PL sides who for the most part haven't been flirting with relegation year on year and who seem to have a strategy for some improvement on and off the pitch. We are owned by an idiot, ran by idiots and have no strategy or plan in place (any that makes sense anyway) for improving. Watford could easily fall into the 'Stoke' category of sides if they get their next appointment correct. Playing the we are bigger than you card needs some revision in my opinion. Far 'bigger' clubs than the Watfords of this world have been languishing in the second tier of football for years now. To dismiss the Watford link smacks of arrogance to me. Thanks to Ashley we really are a toxic choice. I wouldn't dismiss them becuase of that, i would rule them out because they change their managers so often that it wouldn't suit Rafa at all. Especially if he's looking to build something somewhere, Watford is 100% not the place for him to do that. You'd argue that we're not in the habit of being builders either. Not that I think he's off to Watford. Very true, although i'm running with the assumption that we've seen the light and will hand Rafa what he wants. (hope, it'll kill me won't it) We also don't sack managers unless they are absolute fucking dross. He'd be set until he retires if he wants here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We're a much bigger team than Watford. Going there would be a massively short-termist thing to do. We are a much bigger club than Swansea, Southampton or Stoke it could be argued, but they are now established PL sides who for the most part haven't been flirting with relegation year on year and who seem to have a strategy for some improvement on and off the pitch. We are owned by an idiot, ran by idiots and have no strategy or plan in place (any that makes sense anyway) for improving. Watford could easily fall into the 'Stoke' category of sides if they get their next appointment correct. Playing the we are bigger than you card needs some revision in my opinion. Far 'bigger' clubs than the Watfords of this world have been languishing in the second tier of football for years now. To dismiss the Watford link smacks of arrogance to me. Thanks to Ashley we really are a toxic choice. I wouldn't dismiss them becuase of that, i would rule them out because they change their managers so often that it wouldn't suit Rafa at all. Especially if he's looking to build something somewhere, Watford is 100% not the place for him to do that. You'd argue that we're not in the habit of being builders either. Not that I think he's off to Watford. Very true, although i'm running with the assumption that we've seen the light and will hand Rafa what he wants. (hope, it'll kill me won't it) We also don't sack managers unless they are absolute fucking dross. He'd be set until he retires if he wants here. Also true but there's now way he'd work under the process that Pardew/McClaren did. He wants full control, especially over transfers (which is the main sticking point in all of it for me). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I 100% reckon he'll stay if he gets it. It not the fans that'll swing it; he's sold on that front. As long as charnley is still here I'm also 100% sure he'll not get the control he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I want Rafa to stay here but if I was him I would go to Everton if given the chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I want Rafa to say but even if he does, I am convinced that the club will do something at some point in the future to make him walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 SSN showing the press conference at 12.30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I'm shiting it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We're a much bigger team than Watford. Going there would be a massively short-termist thing to do. We are a much bigger club than Swansea, Southampton or Stoke it could be argued, but they are now established PL sides who for the most part haven't been flirting with relegation year on year and who seem to have a strategy for some improvement on and off the pitch. We are owned by an idiot, ran by idiots and have no strategy or plan in place (any that makes sense anyway) for improving. Watford could easily fall into the 'Stoke' category of sides if they get their next appointment correct. Playing the we are bigger than you card needs some revision in my opinion. Far 'bigger' clubs than the Watfords of this world have been languishing in the second tier of football for years now. To dismiss the Watford link smacks of arrogance to me. Thanks to Ashley we really are a toxic choice. But there isn't a Watford link, it's just something someone said in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Fucking hell - are these cunts for real?! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160514/16ec0bfe21e0d1727ab4786038ac62b2.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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