La Parka Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Pathetic. Getting of lightly due to past achievement. Imagine if this was Carver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Been worried about a lack of goals in the side for 2-3 years now. Remains the same. Midfield still looks gash at CM. Rafa needs to learn quickly. The last relegation spoilt us. The division isn't as easy as it was then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Gone by Christmas, IMO 4-2-3-1 can die in a fire in this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Problem we have is the 4-2-3-1 is good as a counter attacking formation as we saw against Tottenham, but now teams are sitting deep and we lack ideas. Up front we're lacking numbers because we're not set up to attack, we're set up to counter. It just looks awful right now. Rafa will sort it out i've no doubt, fast as possible would be nice like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Just a 'wake up call' tbh. Same if we get turned over again next game and the one after that. No big issues here, just wake up calls. f***ing load of s****. Need to stop hitting the fucking snooze button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I think it just takes time. We won't be losing these games in mid October.. Just takes time to settle. I am worried tho that we are not defending well We saw that with Pardew, though. We looked most fragile defensively when we had the most defensive players on the field. You don't get anywhere in English football by setting up not to lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Mentally I'm already thinking top 6 rather than top 2. Might be early but I'm seriously worried. Anita, Colback, Shelvey shit for this Division too. Perez too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 sack him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Pathetic. Getting of lightly due to past achievement. Imagine if this was Carver He absolutely deserves the benefit of the doubt given that past achievement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I'm just hoping that things going so bad so fast will force him into making some big changes. We're already in for a LB and apparently another striker which we need, hopefully he sees how pointless playing Anita on the wing is and goes for another winger too. I doubt he'll stop playing 4-2-3-1 anytime soon though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Nobody is ever beyond criticism but I have full faith in him and it'll take quite a while to change that. Think people that are faltering already are slightly mental. This Yeah, you were still defending McClaren in March, though. My only worries are he's obviously not stressed the need for new players to the two cunts in charge. That and the fact his way of playing football won't see us finish top 2. He'll have to change it, hopefully he isn't too stubborn. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? You've had shit opinions before, the only differences is that I can admit when I'm wrong, whereas you get precious and can't accept that your godlike opinion isn't fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Get shot of Shelvey, Anita, De Jong & Colback and buy some creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Nobody is ever beyond criticism but I have full faith in him and it'll take quite a while to change that. Think people that are faltering already are slightly mental. This Yeah, you were still defending McClaren in March, though. My only worries are he's obviously not stressed the need for new players to the two cunts in charge. That and the fact his way of playing football won't see us finish top 2. He'll have to change it, hopefully he isn't too stubborn. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? You've had shit opinions before, the only differences is that I can admit when I'm wrong, whereas you get precious and can't accept that your godlike opinion isn't fact. No, it's just far more credible than yours. I'm 100% right in this instance, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I think it just takes time. We won't be losing these games in mid October.. Just takes time to settle. I am worried tho that we are not defending well We saw that with Pardew, though. We looked most fragile defensively when we had the most defensive players on the field. You don't get anywhere in English football by setting up not to lose. Yep. I'd argue we lack the creativity. Need a signing to provide the balance and creativity Rafa has been taking about. Another indicator of the damage to this club also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Nobody is ever beyond criticism but I have full faith in him and it'll take quite a while to change that. Think people that are faltering already are slightly mental. This Yeah, you were still defending McClaren in March, though. My only worries are he's obviously not stressed the need for new players to the two cunts in charge. That and the fact his way of playing football won't see us finish top 2. He'll have to change it, hopefully he isn't too stubborn. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? You've had shit opinions before, the only differences is that I can admit when I'm wrong, whereas you get precious and can't accept that your godlike opinion isn't fact. No, it's just far more credible than yours. I'm 100% right in this instance, though. Of course mate, whatever you say :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Just a 'wake up call' tbh. Same if we get turned over again next game and the one after that. No big issues here, just wake up calls. Fucking load of shite. Good job nobody is saying that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Some massively fickle dickheads among our fan base Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 There are piss flaps with more backbone than some people in this thread. Two games, new players, no target man available. Just because you put someone on a pedestal, it doesn't make him God-like; just because he inevitably falls off, doesn't make him shit. Hold your nerve and get a grip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 There are p*ss flaps with more backbone than some people in this thread. Two games, new players, no target man available. Just because you put someone on a pedestal, it doesn't make him God-like; just because he inevitably falls off, doesn't make him s***. Hold your nerve and get a grip. Does that mean we should remain tight lipped and not discuss any criticisms on a medium perfect for doing just that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Uh oh the F word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Some massively fickle dickheads among our fan base "Fickle" is such a crap word when it comes to football. You should be fickle when watching football, if you aren't you're just being blindly faithful in the face of evidence. I still think Rafa will get it right eventually though and we'll get promoted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Lost two games and meltdown has occurred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 We've just deservedly lost to two poor Championship sides playing absolutely dreadful negative football. Wigan Athletic scored more goals today than we've managed shots on target in 180 minutes. Effectively this is the club's lowest point for over 24 years. I think folk have a right to be concerned, like. We should still get promoted but big changes need to be made that frankly shouldn't be being made 2 games into the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Some massively fickle dickheads among our fan base "Fickle" is such a crap word when it comes to football. You should be fickle when watching football, if you aren't you're just being blindly faithful in the face of evidence. I still think Rafa will get it right eventually though and we'll get promoted Well yeah, it's not like everyone's saying Rafa out, I still think we'll win this league, but we need to find a better way of playing. The football has been awful so far, and that's something he'll have to fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 It's not fickle like. We've been shit, people have said we've been shit. I can't see anyone truly doubting Rafa at this stage and if there are they're not fickle, just daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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