Ronaldo Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 He would be, given that Lowes never once took him to task, even after utterly indefensible consecutive displays. He was harsher on McClaren after a 1-0 defeat to Arsenal than Pardew after Liverpool dicked us 6-0 at home. Pardew knew exactly how to placate and manipulate the mongish elements of the local media. That's partially why he was hired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Pardew knew exactly how to placate and manipulate the mongish elements of the local media. That's partially why he was hired. Pardew is hardly some calculated super villain here. Infact, there is nothing calculated about him. He's cringeworthy, foolish and rash which is largely why he's a shit football manager. It doesnt surprise me that he's sound enough initially. It's after a while people start seeing through his bullshit for what an absolute fool he is. Thats parts of the reason why he always starts off well, then has these massive downturns in form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Pardew knew exactly how to placate and manipulate the mongish elements of the local media. That's partially why he was hired. Pardew is hardly some calculated super villain here. Infact, there is nothing calculated about him. He's cringeworthy, foolish and rash which is largely why he's a s*** football manager. It doesnt surprise me that he's sound enough initially. It's after a while people start seeing through his bullshit for what an absolute fool he is. Thats parts of the reason why he always starts off well, then has these massive downturns in form. Accurate description of a snake oil salesman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 “We can ask him a question, text him, ring him or whatever. The big thing for me is he treats everybody the same. “With all due respect it doesn’t matter if you are a cleaner or kitchen porter, whoever, we’re all treated the same but in a positive way. So incredible finally having a real human being around the place. Could you imagine Pardew even looking at a cleaner? "Don't look the King in the eye..." Indeed, you just know fine well that the fat man is going to ruin it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 He would be, given that Lowes never once took him to task, even after utterly indefensible consecutive displays. He was harsher on McClaren after a 1-0 defeat to Arsenal than Pardew after Liverpool dicked us 6-0 at home. Pardew knew exactly how to placate and manipulate the mongish elements of the local media. That's partially why he was hired. Not at all surprising that the following person got on with Pardew - a pervert with a prima donna complex, who perpetually licked anything coming out of the club's arse, and who I heard first hand call the fans 'so fucking petty' following the protests against Pardew. He also claimed this, just a week after the 5th anniversary of SBR's death. He [Pardew] took charge in December 2010 and was named Barclays Manager of the Season 18 months later, having guided the club to fifth and a place in the Europa League. That was Newcastle's highest finish since the 1996/97 campaign, when they were runners-up to Manchester United. The prick only dared criticise Pardew when the writing was on the wall that he was going. Anderson as well, who said fans 'should be ashamed of themselves' for the 'vicious' way that we treated Pardew at Stoke and whose comeback when it was mentioned that Pardew had pushed officials/sworn at and headbutted opponents was 'oh so that makes it alright then does it?' They couldn't have been any more transparent in their blatantly-affected-by-getting-cosy-with-Pardew bias. The pair of them are worthless in terms of their professional opinions on anyone, they defended the worst manager in this club's modern history right until the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rafa-bentiez-arsenal-shortlist-replace-9801936 Nee quotes or evidence at all. Plus spelling his name wrong in the url Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 How do they know he'd want to bring Henry in as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Preferred media partner indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Couldn't think of many managers less suited to Arsenal than wor Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Couldn't think of many managers less suited to Arsenal than wor Rafa. Yep. Total wrong fit, same as Real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I like how they say this with authority And the Spaniard will ask Gunners’ legend Thierry Henry to join him on the coaching staff. Sounds like Rafa wrote this article tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 He would be, given that Lowes never once took him to task, even after utterly indefensible consecutive displays. He was harsher on McClaren after a 1-0 defeat to Arsenal than Pardew after Liverpool dicked us 6-0 at home. Pardew knew exactly how to placate and manipulate the mongish elements of the local media. That's partially why he was hired. Not at all surprising that the following person got on with Pardew - a pervert with a prima donna complex, who perpetually licked anything coming out of the club's arse, and who I heard first hand call the fans 'so fucking petty' following the protests against Pardew. He also claimed this, just a week after the 5th anniversary of SBR's death. He [Pardew] took charge in December 2010 and was named Barclays Manager of the Season 18 months later, having guided the club to fifth and a place in the Europa League. That was Newcastle's highest finish since the 1996/97 campaign, when they were runners-up to Manchester United. The prick only dared criticise Pardew when the writing was on the wall that he was going. Anderson as well, who said fans 'should be ashamed of themselves' for the 'vicious' way that we treated Pardew at Stoke and whose comeback when it was mentioned that Pardew had pushed officials/sworn at and headbutted opponents was 'oh so that makes it alright then does it?' They couldn't have been any more transparent in their blatantly-affected-by-getting-cosy-with-Pardew bias. The pair of them are worthless in terms of their professional opinions on anyone, they defended the worst manager in this club's modern history right until the end. Bit in bold is a load of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 That's why he posted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rafa-bentiez-arsenal-shortlist-replace-9801936 Nee quotes or evidence at all. Plus spelling his name wrong in the url Daily Mail going with the story as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 That's why he posted it. Lolz, I am pissed to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I like how they say this with authority And the Spaniard will ask Gunners’ legend Thierry Henry to join him on the coaching staff. Sounds like Rafa wrote this article tbh I thought along the same lines. If Ashley can play media games then why cant Rafa in order to get what he wants in the Summer here. Sounds like propaganda fuelled by Rafa's side for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Keep until he has us looking healthy in the premiership then bin him in early December for Mark Hughes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Couldn't think of many managers less suited to Arsenal than wor Rafa. Disagree totally - he is a perfect fit for them. They want success and trophies having been denied them for some years now. They also have a history of winning things by pragmatic football...remember '1-0 to the Arsenal'....? They would back him far more heavily than Ashley ever would and he would be in charge of a great club. I said ages ago that if Wenger left, they would be serious competitors for his services and they are a far bigger club than West Ham who are the other main contenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1-0 to the arsenal was 20 years ago now though. It's a generation ago. I don't think that would be given the time of day nowadays, unless results were pretty immediate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I think Rafa's days of working at the biggest clubs are done anyway, tbh. Such is the ego of the modern superstar footballer his style will be unpopular wherever he goes where he isn't the biggest person at the club. Liverpool was a partial exception to this. Obviously it's our gain, hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Even at a top club, Rafa's regimented defensive formation is more suited to winning cup competitions to a league campaign. He would have won the title with Liverpool if he'd been prepared to go at the shit teams a bit more. Arsenal fans would never be patient enough if he didn't win anything within the first season. I think Rafa would much prefer to stay here than go to London, our fans have watched some pretty awful football in the last couple of months but they have complete faith in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Even at a top club, Rafa's regimented defensive formation is more suited to winning cup competitions to a league campaign. He would have won the title with Liverpool if he'd been prepared to go at the s*** teams a bit more. Arsenal fans would never be patient enough if he didn't win anything within the first season. I think Rafa would much prefer to stay here than go to London, our fans have watched some pretty awful football in the last couple of months but they have complete faith in him. Rafa got 82 and 86 points with Liverpool. Arsenal haven't done that since going unbeaten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Even at a top club, Rafa's regimented defensive formation is more suited to winning cup competitions to a league campaign. He would have won the title with Liverpool if he'd been prepared to go at the s*** teams a bit more. Arsenal fans would never be patient enough if he didn't win anything within the first season. I think Rafa would much prefer to stay here than go to London, our fans have watched some pretty awful football in the last couple of months but they have complete faith in him. Rafa got 82 and 86 points with Liverpool. Arsenal haven't done that since going unbeaten. They got 83 in 07/08. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Even at a top club, Rafa's regimented defensive formation is more suited to winning cup competitions to a league campaign. He would have won the title with Liverpool if he'd been prepared to go at the s*** teams a bit more. Arsenal fans would never be patient enough if he didn't win anything within the first season. I think Rafa would much prefer to stay here than go to London, our fans have watched some pretty awful football in the last couple of months but they have complete faith in him. Rafa got 82 and 86 points with Liverpool. Arsenal haven't done that since going unbeaten. Even at a top club, Rafa's regimented defensive formation is more suited to winning cup competitions to a league campaign. He would have won the title with Liverpool if he'd been prepared to go at the s*** teams a bit more. Arsenal fans would never be patient enough if he didn't win anything within the first season. I think Rafa would much prefer to stay here than go to London, our fans have watched some pretty awful football in the last couple of months but they have complete faith in him. Rafa got 82 and 86 points with Liverpool. Arsenal haven't done that since going unbeaten. If you are just going off stats, then Wenger actually won the title a few times and has been in the CL every season since he's been in charge. That might be worth more to the Arsenal board given they want to make money above honours anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1-0 to the arsenal was 20 years ago now though. It's a generation ago. I don't think that would be given the time of day nowadays, unless results were pretty immediate. They have a different mentality to our fans and for that matter, to those of Liverpool/Man U fans - they want success and their whole club ethic has always been about professionalism at every level. I remain convinced that Rafa WOULD be among those they would be interested in and if Ashley HAS changed the ground-rules, he would be interested in them too because he too is a winner and wants to create a winning club. His chances of doing that at NUFC will be virtually zero if Ashley insists on his youth profile for potential signings. Wenger has given them some attractive sides and some decent signings but they have fallen by the wayside when it comes to trophies....NUFC fans have accepted that for their club but Gunners fans and the board have not . As for immediate results, Rafa has achieved those here but the football has not always been easy on the eye. If he did the same at PL level it would be acceptable for quite a few clubs' fans. I just hope Ashley sees sense - if not, we are likely to lose the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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