Nobody Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 If the budget is £20 million plus whatever he makes then Rafa won't be here next season! hate posts like this So you think Rafa will stay if he's given only £20 million to spend? [emoji38] [emoji38] I think there's more to it than than that. He might accept a structured build up of funds given the impact of relegation etc. You've no fucking idea. I agree. He'll want significant funds, but he won't be unreasonable. If he's promised enough funds to build a squad which can challenge at the top within two or three years he'll be happy with that. I doubt he's the type of manager who'll say I need to winning cups next season or I'm off. Correct, though everyone else seems to have a real insight into what Rafa will and will not do. It's the same as people being negative as hell in the match threads, people voting 5s in the promotionometer etc, all in the hope to be able to jump on their high horse and tell us they told us so if the worst happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 If the budget is £20 million plus whatever he makes then Rafa won't be here next season! hate posts like this So you think Rafa will stay if he's given only £20 million to spend? [emoji38] [emoji38] I think there's more to it than than that. He might accept a structured build up of funds given the impact of relegation etc. You've no f***ing idea. Whhhhoooohhhhhhhhhhh, settle down darling! I didn’t state that I had an idea but in my opinion, I’ll be very surprised if he will be happy to accept a budget of £20 million to work with looking at the state of our current squad next season. Only Stoke and Hull spent LESS than that figure last summer. This repeated £20m figure of yours is pie in the sky and only serves to upset yourself. You've created a scenario doomed for failure and run with it. mojorinsin is suggesting you sit on your hands and not get carried away with hypotheticals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Does anyone really think Benitez is going to stay after the January fiasco and topped off by today's events - I'd be very very surprised if he is our manager come August Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Was £70m plus whatever we sell yesterday. Where the fuck has £20m come from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Was £70m plus whatever we sell yesterday. Where the f*** has £20m come from? based on assumptions...i reckon there will be realistically be around 20m net to spend on transfer fees and around 20m generated by a number of players leaving. So a total of 40m to spend on fees on incomings. the majority of the premier league TV money won't be in our account until once we've completed our first season back. the club in its recent history has not (unless in extreme circumstance such as relegation) used credit or taken on extra debt when investing in the club so the idea of 50m, 100m spent this summer would be unexpected unless we get extra investment from another source. in 2010 the message was 'no capital outlay', i expect it to be similar until after we bank the money of the first season if we stay up in the first season. the conservatism of jan 2017 will continue until june next year. i think rafa's will look at the next 3 years to get guarantees, rather than just next immediate season. by season 3 we should be competitive ££ to compete for top 8. at the moment our season in the championship has meant we are financially crippled to challenge the top 10 teams ££. luckily rafa has proved he can get more out of some of the players we have and has experience in building a solid squad which hopefully should be able to stay up next year, despite there being a tight budget initially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Was £70m plus whatever we sell yesterday. Where the f*** has £20m come from? based on assumptions...i reckon there will be realistically be around 20m net to spend on transfer fees and around 20m generated by a number of players leaving. So a total of 40m to spend on fees on incomings. the majority of the premier league TV money won't be in our account until once we've completed our first season back. the club in its recent history has not (unless in extreme circumstance such as relegation) used credit or taken on extra debt when investing in the club so the idea of 50m, 100m spent this summer would be unexpected unless we get extra investment from another source. in 2010 the message was 'no capital outlay', i expect it to be similar until after we bank the money of the first season if we stay up in the first season. the conservatism of jan 2017 will continue until june next year. i think rafa's will look at the next 3 years to get guarantees, rather than just next immediate season. by season 3 we should be competitive ££ to compete for top 8. at the moment our season in the championship has meant we are financially crippled to challenge the top 10 teams ££. luckily rafa has proved he can get more out of some of the players we have and has experience in building a solid squad which hopefully should be able to stay up next year, despite there being a tight budget initially. gotcha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Agree, nobody knows anything including the media. I doubt transfer budgets has even be discussed properly at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 And this is the £200m transfer kitty you would have had, if it wasn't for that pesky 18month transfer ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 What time is he due to speak to the media tomorrow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 What time is he due to speak to the media tomorrow? Usually around 1 pm IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 There's some weapons grade bollocking assumptions about transfer war chests going on. We haven't even finished the season yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 He rejected Villa because of their so-called small transfer kitty (£40m apparently). Rafa is an ambitious man, but realistic with it. He joined Liverpool to win them trophies, to go for the league and that was the route they took, failing obviously. He hasn't joined Newcastle to win the league, he has joined to start a project, to win a trophy and build from there. He will not accept a fight against relegation or mid-table mediocrity, however. He will look at a top-10 place next season and a cup maybe and then the top 6 and then a top 4 challenge. The club need to invest £70m net IMO next season simply to finish in the top 10 comfortably. If only the club said to Rafa lets use the next 3-5 years to launch a bid for the title... he would IMO take us towards that kind of level. He's that calibre of manager. We sadly are a joke club as evidence by today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 This repeated £20m figure of yours is pie in the sky and only serves to upset yourself. You've created a scenario doomed for failure and run with it. mojorinsin is suggesting you sit on your hands and not get carried away with hypotheticals. Ha ha ha WTF? Can you not read posts? Furney89 stated that figure which I replied to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 think next season's aim will be to stay up and win a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Will he be fazed by today's events? He did work at Real Madrid which was certainly no short of drama and a nuts hierarchy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Will he be fazed by today's events? He did work at Real Madrid which was certainly no short of drama and a nuts hierarchy... One of his alleged suitors has been implicated in this mess as well too tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Source? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 West Ham... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Source? West Ham! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Ah fuck, aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Sam Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 All. Speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 As if he knows anything, I doubt Rafa himself even knows and stuff like this is just scaremongering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 McNally taking Sunlun's relegation well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Ashley still to congratulate Benitez on achieving promotion amid Toon turmoil http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-boss-rafa-benitez-still-10302356#ICID=ios_mirrorfootball_AppShare_Click_Other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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