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My mate has a box and he says Rafa is definitely staying.

 

Its only a cardboard box mind, but its a big one.

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The thing that sticks with me about Rafa's quotes this summer, albeit vaguely, are the ones where he mentioned players coming to the club because of him and him repaying that faith. Kind of suggests that it'll take something special to push him to the edge now.

 

I think it's also something about our fans that he likes. He mentioned us as being similar to the fans at Liverpool.

 

I'm not sure if West Ham would hold the same charm for him. Depends how intolerable he finds the Ashley situation though I guess.

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I'd imagine the porn barons will be looking at a 'pretty football' manager who's more likely to play 'the West Ham way', whatever the fuck that means. Wouldn't surprise me if they went after Tuchel.

One of the papers today says they are after Fulham's manager. It's not the first time that they have been linked with him either.
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Giggs?

 

 

Pete Graves.

 

 

 

 

There's something that's worried me since the day Rafa Benitez arrived at Newcastle United. Something that has always been at the back of my mind. A nagging fear that one day a certain club might come in for him, and believe it or not - that club was West Ham.

My heart sank a little last night. The news reached us at Sky Sports News that West Ham were considering the future of Slaven Bilic and that Rafa Benitez would indeed be top of their potential list of suitors. Furthermore they were aware there was a clause, a fairly significant one (more than £5m) but ultimately a way to effectively buy Benitez out of Newcastle United.

But why are West Ham the club that I've feared so long?? Why did I not blink when the links with China and even Arsenal were reported in the national press? Well the reason is, because Rafa has always maintained privately that he feels indebted to West Ham and would have to consider any approach from the Hammers if it should ever materialise and here's why;

In 2015 Benitez was on the brink of becoming West Ham's manager. He'd spoken with the owners and was planning for life at Upton Park. However at the eleventh hour Real Madrid offered him the opportunity to move to the Bernabeu and it was too good an offer to turn down. What impressed Rafa so much was the way the West Ham board accepted his decision. They understood that the opportunity to manage Real Madrid was too much for a Spanish manager to disregard and they gave Rafa their blessing and subsequently appointed Slaven Bilic. The rest as they say is history and now we are where we are... Bilic on the brink and Rafa in their thoughts.

Now let's throw into the mix that Rafa has grown increasingly frustrated at Nufc this summer. He wanted more investment and he's stood and watched while even fellow 'promotees' Brighton and Huddersfield have spent significantly more. Meanwhile West Ham have signed Joe Hart (a player Rafa wanted) and also submitted a bid of close to 40m for William Carvalho (another Rafa target). Let that sink in... A 40 million pound bid for ONE player, that's more than Newcastle have spent on six new arrivals so far. That's financial muscle.

Only this week Rafa said that he no longer viewed Nufc as a long term project... Not my words, the words of the manager, while he's also said that he's "signing the players he can, not the ones that he wants". Needless to say, the positivity of last seasons promotion has disintegrated. And Rafa is clearly frustrated AND not afraid to tell the world.

Now let's consider West Ham as a potential long term project. They have the Olympic Stadium, they're based in London, in my opinion with the right manager at the helm they could be challenging the 'big boys' in the next 3-5 years both on and off the pitch. It's an attractive proposition on paper.

Now, from a personal point of view, I was gutted to be roundly criticised by lots of fellow Nufc fans for reporting the story both on air and online last night. Let me say that there's absolutely no agenda from me, so to be accused of stirring things up or creating stories to disrupt the club is absolutely ridiculous. I love Newcastle United and have done all my life. As a family we've still got our season tickets and I travel home and away as often as I can. Not in the press box, but with the fans... I pay for my tickets. I write a column in the Newcastle United program and let me clear this up once and for all, I recieve no money for this column at all and am not "on the payroll" as has been thrown at me in the past.

I fully understand that rumours of other clubs circling Rafa are not easy to stomach... I know this because I feel exactly the same, but sadly this story has legs and as someone who works as a sports reporter, but is also acutely aware that the majority of my 'followers' etc are Newcastle United fans, I felt it was my duty to keep you informed with the very latest concerning our manager. Although I'm sorry that in this instance the news was slightly concerning.

Finally this is anything but a done deal and there is still a massive reason why Rafa Benitez could very well stay at Newcastle United for years to come and continue to fight for the club.... and that reason is quite simply you lot; the fans. Rafa Benitez could manage for the next one thousand years and he'll never ever receive the adoration that he currently receives on Tyneside. He knows that and his family knows that! He can walk on water in Newcastle and rightly so. Subsequently it would really hurt him to walk away from those loyal geordie supporters that he's grown so fond of and this will be forefront in his thinking. His love for the fans is so strong that I believe it could be enough to make him stay, but he needs more support financially. Yesterday's brilliant 3-0 win and the atmosphere in the ground will also help!

As we stand today, Slaven Bilic remains West Ham manager and Rafa Benitez very much the manager of Newcastle United. However if I was the owner of Newcastle I'd be giving Rafa everything that he wants starting with more financial muscle in the remaining days of the transfer window... However sadly I'm not.

Thoughts welcome. HWTL

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If news broke that West Ham have asked us for permission to speak with Rafa, you know Ashley would f***ing agree with it and say Rafa forced the move

 

If Rafa was to leave, it would be all his choice tbf.

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I think Rafa will be off either in January or at the end of the season but can't see him going to West Ham at the moment. Their owners might not be Mike Ashley but they're still fucking idiots. Rafa would've been fuming at the prospect of having to play the first four games of the season away from home and I cannot see him putting up with Twitter histrionics of David Gold, Sullivan and his daft son for long at all. The lack of a transfer window to rectify a seriously unbalanced squad will also be a factor IMO.

 

Perhaps I'm being naive but on a human level I think Rafa will stick it out for a bit longer, out of respect for the fans and out of loyalty to the players that he has brought in.

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West Ham have a bright future under the right manager, a far brighter future than us. Of all the clubs outside the usual suspects, they have the capacity to join the top clubs along with perhaps Everton. Newcastle United will never ever belong in that tier so long as Mike Ashley owns us, Rafa or no Rafa. Its not going to happen. West Ham would be a very tempting offer for any manager, Rafa included. Personally, however, I believe he would love a return to Liverpool and I wouldn't rule it out if they get rid of Klopp anytime soon as their fans will clamour for him no doubt.

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Just enjoy the win and the international break, and see what happens prior to the transfer window closing. I can't see anything happening with Rafa mid-season. In the summer it'll be a different story.

 

 

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If he leaves for that shambles down there with their shithouse fans who always want a fight, then I'm not going to respect him for it. Fair enough resign because your unhappy if you hate it here that much, but leave us for that mess and their "West Ham way"? Nah.

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Literally no point worrying about it. Keep giving the manager support and that's the main thing we can do. Ashley is always going to be difficult, Benitez comes across to me as someone that will take quite a few things into account when making big decisions like that. He's taken to the club quite well imo, frustration at times is a normal part of life.

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I think the fact that Rafa was on the verge of signing a contract to manage West Ham before Real Madrid came in shows that he would consider going there.

 

There are different problems with the board at that club as Sullivan likes to buy the players he wants so the manager does not always have much say and they like to talk too much in the media.  But they do seem willing to spend and are in a hurry to establish themselves in the upper places in the league although they do seem to think spending big or getting a name in rather than building a team is the way to do it.

 

However, would Rafa spend the next few days persuading players to join us only to then leave a few days later?  He has shown he has a strong sense of loyalty to his players.  If no-one comes in at all, well that might be different.

 

The local journalists seem to strongly believe he will stay for this season at least.

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