U2 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 It is for another time whether the club has learned anything since but it does believe there is currently a major discrepancy in the figures that have emerged since the window closed. They insist more than £40 million has been spent on the six players Newcastle have signed this summer and that the initial incoming figures for their two major sales, Florian Thauvin to Marseille (£10 million) and Lewis Gibson to Everton (£6 million) will be a fraction of the actual total. They just ignoring the profits from last summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Speaking after the meeting, Mike Ashley said: “I’ve confirmed to Rafa and Lee that they can have every last penny that the club generates through promotion, player sales and other means in order to build for next season.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 It's so much easier if you just approach the whole thing with the presumption that absolutely everything, no matter how big or small, is a lie. They know they can get away with it because they hold the power, even after Keegan won his case, it didn't change anything about the way that they operate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 “Yes it is unusual,” said Benitez. “But I think it is very good for Newcastle because I am representing the club at the top level, at a prestigious meeting like this. I can make sure I can bring back to Newcastle experience and information from the conference to help the club.” Absolutely criminal that this means fuck all to the hierarchy at the club. They should all be hung from the Tyne Bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 So one of those articles says that the Barnes guy was haggling over every fine detail of each transfer in a bid to impress MA. It apparently took him two months to seal each of the LeJeune and Merino deals. As in two months on each deal separately! One of which involved a release clause and the other which was a simple loan I'm so fed up man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Can you imagine what the BVB boardroom thought of us during those negotiations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Don't believe that for a second KaKa, he'll have been put there to deliberately stall things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm heartbroken over this shit man. We're so fucking close with Rafa to just having a team we can enjoy and root for. Fucking sickening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 This season could turn out to be one of the most embarrassing I can remember. At least when we had mediocre squads before, we had managers from the scrap heap in charge. This time we've got a great manager and given him a Championship squad to work with. We are going to look tight fisted and trying to act above our station at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Being really pragmatic and drawing all the emotional charge out of it for one second ((I'll be raging again afterwards, just a few seconds of calm.)) It's not the worst squad ever, as its being labelled, which is just unfair on those players. Just going to do a simple comparision to the one that I think is the worst squad we've ever had. 2014/15 vs 2017/8 ((Trying to assume who's going to be first choice as best I can, based on what we've seen so far.)) Goalkeepers Tim Krul > Rob Elliot Rob Elliot < Karl Darlow Jak Alnwick < Freddie Woodman Defenders Daryl Janmaat < DeAndre Yedlin Mike Williamson < Florian Lejuene ((By fucking miles.)) Fabricio Coloccini < Ciaran Clark ((Had a really hard time deciding this one, but just think Colo was past his best.)) Paul Dummett = Paul Dummett Ryan Taylor < Javier Manquillo Steven Taylor < Jamaal Lascelles Massadio Haidara = Massadio Haidara No one < Jesus Gamez No one < Chancel Mbemba ((Just an opinion, but I think we're so much better in defence now.)) Midfielders Jack Colback < Jonjo Shelvey Vurnon Anita < Isaac Hayden Cheick Tiote < Mikel Merino ((Sorry Cheicky. Just past your best by now.)) Mehdi Abeid > Henri Saivet Moussa Sissoko > Mo Diame Remy Cabella < Matt Ritchie Yoan Gouffran < Christian Atsu Sammy Ameobi < Jacob Murphy Gabby Obertan < Rolando Aarons Siem De Jong < Ayoze Perez Strikers Papiss Cisse > Dwight Gayle (Maybe. Though he was a liability that year and missed ten through suspension, Dwight might miss alot through doubting himself. Could easily go the other way.)) Ayoze Perez < Joselu ((Perez just wasn't a striker, hence being pushed out wide later on.)) Riviere < Mitrovic. ((He could spend all season out banned. His contribution would still be more than Riv's was.)) So yeah, In my opinion we've had much worse in the past. That team didn't win till October 18th, had one of the worst finishes I've ever seen and still stayed up. To call this squad now "The worst we've ever had", as I've seen a lot on twitter today, just isn't fair on those players. Okay, can stop being pragmatic now. Fuck off, Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14/15 was a poor team, but it didn't have Rafa as a manager. I think we can agree that he's the difference. This is still probably the worst NUFC squad I can remember tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Being really pragmatic and drawing all the emotional charge out of it for one second ((I'll be raging again afterwards, just a few seconds of calm.)) It's not the worst squad ever, as its being labelled, which is just unfair on those players. Just going to do a simple comparision to the one that I think is the worst squad we've ever had. 2014/15 vs 2017/8 ((Trying to assume who's going to be first choice as best I can, based on what we've seen so far.)) Goalkeepers Tim Krul > Rob Elliot Rob Elliot < Karl Darlow Jak Alnwick < Freddie Woodman Defenders Daryl Janmaat < DeAndre Yedlin Mike Williamson < Florian Lejuene ((By fucking miles.)) Fabricio Coloccini < Ciaran Clark ((Had a really hard time deciding this one, but just think Colo was past his best.)) Paul Dummett = Paul Dummett Ryan Taylor < Javier Manquillo Steven Taylor < Jamaal Lascelles Massadio Haidara = Massadio Haidara No one < Jesus Gamez No one < Chancel Mbemba ((Just an opinion, but I think we're so much better in defence now.)) Midfielders Jack Colback < Jonjo Shelvey Vurnon Anita < Isaac Hayden Cheick Tiote < Mikel Merino ((Sorry Cheicky. Just past your best by now.)) Mehdi Abeid > Henri Saivet Moussa Sissoko > Mo Diame Remy Cabella < Matt Ritchie Yoan Gouffran < Christian Atsu Sammy Ameobi < Jacob Murphy Gabby Obertan < Rolando Aarons Siem De Jong < Ayoze Perez Strikers Papiss Cisse > Dwight Gayle (Maybe. Though he was a liability that year and missed ten through suspension, Dwight might miss alot through doubting himself. Could easily go the other way.)) Ayoze Perez < Joselu ((Perez just wasn't a striker, hence being pushed out wide later on.)) Riviere < Mitrovic. ((He could spend all season out banned. His contribution would still be more than Riv's was.)) So yeah, In my opinion we've had much worse in the past. That team didn't win till October 18th, had one of the worst finishes I've ever seen and still stayed up. To call this squad now "The worst we've ever had", as I've seen a lot on twitter today, just isn't fair on those players. Okay, can stop being pragmatic now. Fuck off, Ashley. Nice positive post. Unfortunately all of the other teams in the league (maybe not all) have improved quicker than we have. With this squad, barring any injuries or suspensions, Rafa may keep us up. What's the point of being in this league though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 That's a great post by xLiaamx. Breaking it down like that is a real eye opener to how bad that previous team was. Colback and Anita midfield man. My goodness. Rafa can still do things with this team no question, but it's just such a shame he wasn't given what he was promised, and therefore the ill feeling is just taking away from everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louistoon Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Being really pragmatic and drawing all the emotional charge out of it for one second ((I'll be raging again afterwards, just a few seconds of calm.)) It's not the worst squad ever, as its being labelled, which is just unfair on those players. Just going to do a simple comparision to the one that I think is the worst squad we've ever had. 2014/15 vs 2017/8 ((Trying to assume who's going to be first choice as best I can, based on what we've seen so far.)) Goalkeepers Tim Krul > Rob Elliot Rob Elliot < Karl Darlow Jak Alnwick < Freddie Woodman Defenders Daryl Janmaat < DeAndre Yedlin Mike Williamson < Florian Lejuene ((By f***ing miles.)) Fabricio Coloccini < Ciaran Clark ((Had a really hard time deciding this one, but just think Colo was past his best.)) Paul Dummett = Paul Dummett Ryan Taylor < Javier Manquillo Steven Taylor < Jamaal Lascelles Massadio Haidara = Massadio Haidara No one < Jesus Gamez No one < Chancel Mbemba ((Just an opinion, but I think we're so much better in defence now.)) Midfielders Jack Colback < Jonjo Shelvey Vurnon Anita < Isaac Hayden Cheick Tiote < Mikel Merino ((Sorry Cheicky. Just past your best by now.)) Mehdi Abeid > Henri Saivet Moussa Sissoko > Mo Diame Remy Cabella < Matt Ritchie Yoan Gouffran < Christian Atsu Sammy Ameobi < Jacob Murphy Gabby Obertan < Rolando Aarons Siem De Jong < Ayoze Perez Strikers Papiss Cisse > Dwight Gayle (Maybe. Though he was a liability that year and missed ten through suspension, Dwight might miss alot through doubting himself. Could easily go the other way.)) Ayoze Perez < Joselu ((Perez just wasn't a striker, hence being pushed out wide later on.)) Riviere < Mitrovic. ((He could spend all season out banned. His contribution would still be more than Riv's was.)) So yeah, In my opinion we've had much worse in the past. That team didn't win till October 18th, had one of the worst finishes I've ever seen and still stayed up. To call this squad now "The worst we've ever had", as I've seen a lot on twitter today, just isn't fair on those players. Okay, can stop being pragmatic now. f*** off, Ashley. Wijnaldum? Also I'd argue that as Diame wont be starting its him vs either Hayden or Merino. I'd probably rate Merino higher (going off only one game) but jury is out with Hayden. Otherwise I agree though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Wijnaldum was season after, I'm pretty sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yplasterer Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Don't know why Paul Dummett = Paul Dummett made me chuckle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 My mate keeps telling me to relax about this whole situation and try and support the team just so we can instill some positivity. Like fuck I can relax, the very future of Newcastle United as an actual football club is at stake if Rafa goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/sep/01/rafael-benitez-job-offers-newcastle-mike-ashley-west-ham As good as gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Don't know why Paul Dummett = Paul Dummett made me chuckle I frowned, surely Paul Dummett < Paul Dummett? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Maybe. Balance it out by saying Haidara > Haidara Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yplasterer Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 √Paul Dummett/Massadio Haidara = Stephen Glass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yplasterer Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Good post though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think once the dust settles Benitez will just craic on like. There's understandably uproar from the fans, but I think he'll be desperate to kick on with the next match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm depressed Not just because of Deadline Day.. Why why can't we make the most of it when we finally have a great man and manager at the helm willing to stay for the long term and make this club what it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Justin Barnes - another Ashley bottom feeder. Cunt! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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