Dave Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Souness was undoubtedly worse in footballing terms, in a time where he pulled apart a great team, however Pardew is responsible for the disemination of mediocrity and destruction of expectations. He destroyed the spirit of the club, it's hardened supporters and dismantled the pride throughout the club. Psychologically what he has done has ruined a generation of supporters and created an ethos of "that'll do" throughout the club, now I'm not saying he is solely responsible but he was the chief facilitator and will be reviled for his part in the ruination of a once proud club. That for me is much, much worse. You're spot on, but sadly I doubt the part in bold is the view of the majority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Bit rich coming from us given that appears we'll still be doing the 17 minute thing every game in 25 years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Souness was undoubtedly worse in footballing terms, in a time where he pulled apart a great team, however Pardew is responsible for the disemination of mediocrity and destruction of expectations. He destroyed the spirit of the club, it's hardened supporters and dismantled the pride throughout the club. Psychologically what he has done has ruined a generation of supporters and created an ethos of "that'll do" throughout the club, now I'm not saying he is solely responsible but he was the chief facilitator and will be reviled for his part in the ruination of a once proud club. That for me is much, much worse. Yep. One thing that was so depressing under Pardew was the apathy and acceptance. Remember when that Sheffield United goal went in when we had Roeder? Being in St James's was the most uncomfortable thing in the world, the atmosphere was vile. There were many similar occasions under Souness. Yet we'd get tanked at home to Sunderland and Liverpool under Pardew and there was barely a response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wor jackie Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Bit rich coming from us given that appears we'll still be doing the 17 minute thing every game in 25 years time. I really don't understand why people have a problem with this, it's for one minute,if anyone doesn't want to do it , fine, don't applaud, I knew John so I applaud for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Souness was undoubtedly worse in footballing terms, in a time where he pulled apart a great team, however Pardew is responsible for the disemination of mediocrity and destruction of expectations. He destroyed the spirit of the club, it's hardened supporters and dismantled the pride throughout the club. Psychologically what he has done has ruined a generation of supporters and created an ethos of "that'll do" throughout the club, now I'm not saying he is solely responsible but he was the chief facilitator and will be reviled for his part in the ruination of a once proud club. That for me is much, much worse. Yep. One thing that was so depressing under Pardew was the apathy and acceptance. Remember when that Sheffield United goal went in when we had Roeder? Being in St James's was the most uncomfortable thing in the world, the atmosphere was vile. There were many similar occasions under Souness. Yet we'd get tanked at home to Sunderland and Liverpool under Pardew and there was barely a response. Apart from riots in the city centre, a police horse being attacked and over 100 arrested you are correct, there was barely a response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Souness was undoubtedly worse in footballing terms, in a time where he pulled apart a great team, however Pardew is responsible for the disemination of mediocrity and destruction of expectations. He destroyed the spirit of the club, it's hardened supporters and dismantled the pride throughout the club. Psychologically what he has done has ruined a generation of supporters and created an ethos of "that'll do" throughout the club, now I'm not saying he is solely responsible but he was the chief facilitator and will be reviled for his part in the ruination of a once proud club. That for me is much, much worse. Yep. One thing that was so depressing under Pardew was the apathy and acceptance. Remember when that Sheffield United goal went in when we had Roeder? Being in St James's was the most uncomfortable thing in the world, the atmosphere was vile. There were many similar occasions under Souness. Yet we'd get tanked at home to Sunderland and Liverpool under Pardew and there was barely a response. Apart from riots in the city centre, a police horse being attacked and over 100 arrested you are correct, there was barely a response. That wasn't against Pardew or the club, that all came from people trying to have a pop at the mackems. And by the third home defeat in a row to them we were used to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Souness was undoubtedly worse in footballing terms, in a time where he pulled apart a great team, however Pardew is responsible for the disemination of mediocrity and destruction of expectations. He destroyed the spirit of the club, it's hardened supporters and dismantled the pride throughout the club. Psychologically what he has done has ruined a generation of supporters and created an ethos of "that'll do" throughout the club, now I'm not saying he is solely responsible but he was the chief facilitator and will be reviled for his part in the ruination of a once proud club. That for me is much, much worse. You're spot on, but sadly I doubt the part in bold is the view of the majority. No you're right, but the majority on here and the die hards that were driven away by the whole regime will. I hope we stick it to his team tomorrow and I hope that rather than attack him we just sing Rafa's praises for the whole match, show him exactly what we're made of, a noise he'll have never been privy to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Palace fans seem to hate us: https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalpalace/comments/4gsyz9/pre_match_thread_newcastle_v_crystal_palace/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Hate them back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 They live in South London. I'd hate the rest of the world from that angle too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Hate them back Hate their manager more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Palace fans seem to hate us: https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalpalace/comments/4gsyz9/pre_match_thread_newcastle_v_crystal_palace/ They have got a big fall coming and when it happens, how I will dance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Dontsteponthecrack on that reddit going on a long rant about how he now hates NUFC and how the club doesn't matter. Could've fooled me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Palace fans seem to hate us: https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalpalace/comments/4gsyz9/pre_match_thread_newcastle_v_crystal_palace/ They have every right to, they paid us to take Pardew, I would hate us if I was them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Hope they get massacred in the FA cup final like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Palace fans seem to hate us: https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalpalace/comments/4gsyz9/pre_match_thread_newcastle_v_crystal_palace/ I particularly liked the part about "sending us back to where we belong" even though we've only been outside of the top flight for two years in the PL era, compared to the yo-yo history that Palace have had. Stupid cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Palace fans seem to hate us: https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalpalace/comments/4gsyz9/pre_match_thread_newcastle_v_crystal_palace/ I particularly liked the part about "sending us back to where we belong" even though we've only been outside of the top flight for two years in the PL era, compared to the yo-yo history that Palace have had. Stupid cunt. Yoyo club's extremely generous given that they've spent 14 of the last 17 seasons outside the top flight. 31 out of the last 42 seasons as well. They're a shit tiny irrelevant little club with a crap ground and fans that used to be mutes to a man before this PR-hungry ultras group got started the last couple of years and everyone started going on like they'd always had great fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I'd forgotten we relegated Palace in '95. Good game, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 The 'ultras' group is about two dozen blokes stood right next to the microphones as well. Never heard so much as a peep out of them when we rolled them over there in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 The 'ultras' group is about two dozen blokes stood right next to the microphones as well. Never heard so much as a peep out of them when we rolled them over there in the Championship. https://twitter.com/ShaunBiggs1/status/691017792217321479 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 The 'ultras' group is about two dozen blokes stood right next to the microphones as well. Never heard so much as a peep out of them when we rolled them over there in the Championship. Aye I was at that match as well, the fans were Fulham-esque. Was embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I've only been there once, back in 2004/05 and had zero recollection of it being an atmospheric ground so was always confused by this reputation its gained, didn't realise it was some new 'ultras' group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 hope Cabaye gets a red card in the first 20 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Really hope we smash these tomorrow. Seems like that club and Pardew are made for each other and the sooner he ruins that non entity of a football club the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 hope Cabaye gets a red card in the first 20 minutes I'd rather he gets a career-ending injury in the first 20 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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