Newcastle United transfer rumours in the press

[mrmojorisin75]

Theses new signings are Graham Carr.

Gayle & Ritchie the goalie, I just don't believe Raffa could have seen enough of Gayle or Ritchie to know anything more than even the average football fan.

 

I'm not saying they are bad signings, we will have to wait and see, but I don't think they're Raffa identified, and I'm still thinking Raffa is not 100% in total control.

 

Time will tell.

 

Comfortably the worst post I've seen on here recently and there's been some competition.

 

You really think Rafa (one f, by the way), hasn't seen two premier league players and a keeper  (who has a name *Sels*),  play before?

 

This bloke does his homework.  He's not Pardew.

 

Not what was said, I think Carr is behind them. Fine if Raffa rubber stamped it. But I still think more Carr than Raffa.

So fuck? The main issue we had with Carr's recent signings were physical unsuitability for the league. Neither of these players have that problem and both have decent (or better) records in the division we're playing in.

 

You also discount the idea that Rafa has maintained a network of contacts over here who might well have advised him.

[Kaizero]

Some absolute bullshit. Like Rafa wouldn't fucking watch tons of game footage of the players he wants. Madness. Even if he didn't identify them he'll fucking do his due dilligence ffs

[Scoot]

No way would rafa be signing players he doesn't know about imo.

 

It's just not him.

 

This.

[STM]

I'd like to think there was a decent cooperation between Rafa and Carr.

 

I know a few really don't like Carr but if Rafa can make best use of whatever knowledge he does have and the pair can identify a few decent players then that can only be a good thing.

 

So long as Rafa is happy with the arrangement.

[Sima]

What's gan on in here?

[mighty__mag]

Some absolute bullshit. Like Rafa wouldn't f***ing watch tons of game footage of the players he wants. Madness. Even if he didn't identify them he'll f***ing do his due dilligence ffs

 

Yes fair comment, I'm kind of claiming Carr has identified them, Rafa has selected them.

I'm sure he or someone still trusts Carr with something, or why is he still hanging around.

 

Just an opinion, cheers for the onslaught everyone, ?

[bigfella]

Theses new signings are Graham Carr.

Gayle & Ritchie the goalie, I just don't believe Raffa could have seen enough of Gayle or Ritchie to know anything more than even the average football fan.

 

I'm not saying they are bad signings, we will have to wait and see, but I don't think they're Raffa identified, and I'm still thinking Raffa is not 100% in total control.

 

Time will tell.

 

Comfortably the worst post I've seen on here recently and there's been some competition.

 

You really think Rafa (one f, by the way), hasn't seen two premier league players and a keeper  (who has a name *Sels*),  play before?

 

This bloke does his homework.  He's not Pardew.

 

Not what was said, I think Carr is behind them. Fine if Raffa rubber stamped it. But I still think more Carr than Raffa.

So f***? The main issue we had with Carr's recent signings were physical unsuitability for the league. Neither of these players have that problem and both have decent (or better) records in the division we're playing in.

 

You also discount the idea that Rafa has maintained a network of contacts over here who might well have advised him.

 

And the "not 100% in control" statement is utter horseshit as well.

Have a read back on the Rafa thread and see the posts from the Liverpool fans. They know the bloke better than us and it's clear that when they tell us about the man's character,  he is a man of utmost integrity.

 

Rafa would have been gone the minute we were relegated if he hadn't been assured he had cast iron control over every aspect of the club.

[mighty__mag]

Theses new signings are Graham Carr.

Gayle & Ritchie the goalie, I just don't believe Raffa could have seen enough of Gayle or Ritchie to know anything more than even the average football fan.

 

I'm not saying they are bad signings, we will have to wait and see, but I don't think they're Raffa identified, and I'm still thinking Raffa is not 100% in total control.

 

Time will tell.

 

Comfortably the worst post I've seen on here recently and there's been some competition.

 

You really think Rafa (one f, by the way), hasn't seen two premier league players and a keeper  (who has a name *Sels*),  play before?

 

This bloke does his homework.  He's not Pardew.

 

Not what was said, I think Carr is behind them. Fine if Raffa rubber stamped it. But I still think more Carr than Raffa.

So f***? The main issue we had with Carr's recent signings were physical unsuitability for the league. Neither of these players have that problem and both have decent (or better) records in the division we're playing in.

 

You also discount the idea that Rafa has maintained a network of contacts over here who might well have advised him.

 

And the "not 100% in control" statement is utter horseshit as well.

Have a read back on the Rafa thread and see the posts from the Liverpool fans. They know the bloke better than us and it's clear that when they tell us about the man's character,  he is a man of utmost integrity.

 

Rafa would have been gone the minute we were relegated if he hadn't been assured he had cast iron control over every aspect of the club.

 

Ok then. I'll sit on the fence a bit and see what happens.

 

Shearer has said similar comments in the media, claiming "he hopes he has full control but only time will tell".

 

Guess even the big man has doubts.

 

 

[bigfella]

Theses new signings are Graham Carr.

Gayle & Ritchie the goalie, I just don't believe Raffa could have seen enough of Gayle or Ritchie to know anything more than even the average football fan.

 

I'm not saying they are bad signings, we will have to wait and see, but I don't think they're Raffa identified, and I'm still thinking Raffa is not 100% in total control.

 

Time will tell.

 

Comfortably the worst post I've seen on here recently and there's been some competition.

 

You really think Rafa (one f, by the way), hasn't seen two premier league players and a keeper  (who has a name *Sels*),  play before?

 

This bloke does his homework.  He's not Pardew.

 

Not what was said, I think Carr is behind them. Fine if Raffa rubber stamped it. But I still think more Carr than Raffa.

So f***? The main issue we had with Carr's recent signings were physical unsuitability for the league. Neither of these players have that problem and both have decent (or better) records in the division we're playing in.

 

You also discount the idea that Rafa has maintained a network of contacts over here who might well have advised him.

 

And the "not 100% in control" statement is utter horseshit as well.

Have a read back on the Rafa thread and see the posts from the Liverpool fans. They know the bloke better than us and it's clear that when they tell us about the man's character,  he is a man of utmost integrity.

 

Rafa would have been gone the minute we were relegated if he hadn't been assured he had cast iron control over every aspect of the club.

 

Ok then. I'll sit on the fence a bit and see what happens.

 

Fair play.  Listen, I think this is the first time in a long time where we can put cynicism to one side and get behind the lads 100%.

[KaKa]

Rafa has talked extensively not just about his database of players, but his contacts across numerous countries. He's managed in this country for years prior to going abroad, and so would still have loads of knowledge about the players here, especially as he always wanted to come back over, and so would have kept up on his stuff in England. Very short sighted to think he had no clue about these players.

[nufcjb]

What the absolute fuck? Rafa doesn't know Gayle and Ritchie because he was away in Spain? So if he had stayed with Real, then he wouldn't have bought anyone outside of Spain because he doesn't watch too much footy? Absolute garbage thinking man. It's not like we're buying 3 unknown, unheard names or youth team players. 1 plays for Palace, the other is a Scottish international while the keeper was the best in Belgium. 

[KaKa]

Seems he's unnecessarily worried about Graham Carr still signing players. People need to let go of the Carr thing already, Rafa is clearly in charge of things, and if Carr has any input it's because Rafa is happy to use it.

[Kanj]

Rafa has been meticulously keeping his database of players ready at all times. He still seemingly kept in contact with his global scouts and people who spot and identify talent he trusts. He's in control man.

[TRon]

No way would rafa be signing players he doesn't know about imo.

 

It's just not him.

 

It's just mind bending that there are fans out there that don't get this. But then people pay money for the daily Star so maybe I shouldn't be so surprised.

[Sho Time]

Rafa is showing great awareness to the situation he's in by signing players such as Gayle and Ritchie. Players who not only know the Premier league but also know the Championship too and what it is about. I doubt we'll be seeing many French nobodies recommended by Carr at all any time soon.

[Dave]

Some decent fees being bandied about for us, in the Championship. £10m for Gayle, £12m for Ritchie. Wew.

[Guest]

And a club record signing for a goalkeeper?

[LFEE]

Some decent fees being bandied about for us, in the Championship. £10m for Gayle, £12m for Ritchie. Wew.

 

£13m for Townsend and no doubt £12-15 for Sissoko. Swings and roundabouts. Only difference is we are buying before selling for once.

[joeyt]

Presume the Ritchie transfer will eclipse McCormack and Rhodes for being the most expensive Championship signing

[mrmojorisin75]

Some decent fees being bandied about for us, in the Championship. £10m for Gayle, £12m for Ritchie. Wew.

 

£13m for Townsend and no doubt £12-15 for Sissoko. Swings and roundabouts. Only difference is we are buying before selling for once.

Wijnaldum will probably go for more than we paid for him as well. Bin Cisse, Riviere, maybe Tiote, preferably Colback somehow and sign some reinforcements in defence and midfield pls.

[Dave]

Some decent fees being bandied about for us, in the Championship. £10m for Gayle, £12m for Ritchie. Wew.

 

£13m for Townsend and no doubt £12-15 for Sissoko. Swings and roundabouts. Only difference is we are buying before selling for once.

 

That's my whole point though.

[madras]

Some decent fees being bandied about for us, in the Championship. £10m for Gayle, £12m for Ritchie. Wew.

All relative, Still think there'll be at least 50million incoming before september.

[timeEd32]

Theses new signings are Graham Carr.

Gayle & Ritchie the goalie, I just don't believe Raffa could have seen enough of Gayle or Ritchie to know anything more than even the average football fan.

 

I'm not saying they are bad signings, we will have to wait and see, but I don't think they're Raffa identified, and I'm still thinking Raffa is not 100% in total control.

 

Time will tell.

 

You're a troll.

[Dave]

Some decent fees being bandied about for us, in the Championship. £10m for Gayle, £12m for Ritchie. Wew.

All relative, Still think there'll be at least 50million incoming before september.

 

Doesn't mean we have to spend it. My point was that these are big signings by our standards.

[TRon]

Some decent fees being bandied about for us, in the Championship. £10m for Gayle, £12m for Ritchie. Wew.

 

£13m for Townsend and no doubt £12-15 for Sissoko. Swings and roundabouts. Only difference is we are buying before selling for once.

 

The only reason Townsend can leave for £13m is because there is a relegation clause to be activated should a player turn out to be a slimy little shit. No harm done really, we still haven't lost money on the deal.

 

Sissoko is a different matter. He signed a contract extension, if he leaves the price will be closer to £20m otherwise he's going nowhere. Same goes for Wijnaldum. It's not like we are desperate to keep any player, we just won't be played for mugs.