nufcjb Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Don't get me wrong he has had injuries but it's mainly just Monreal is the preferred option. I'd very much like to see us sign him. Not for 15 million when we have other areas we should prioritise. Left back should be one of the priorities unless anyone feels comfortable watching Dummett getting raped on a weekly basis. No but the fact we aren't great on the left wing, lacking a quality number 10 and are one injury from Colback are of greater concern for me. Not to mention we absolutely require a good keeper. Think left wing can be sorted with Atsu or Ritchie though that isn't the most ideal situation. Aye, a no10 should be the ultimate aim and also a DM. But I've had enough of Dummett and if Gibbs was the replacement, that left side of our team would be so much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 They don't have to be bought in that order. Rafa knows what he needs I doubt he's daft. But we're not going to knock back the chance to sign Gibbs if he wants him just because we need other areas more. As long as by start of the season/2nd September he's got everything, that's what matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 They don't have to be bought in that order. Rafa knows what he needs I doubt he's daft. But we're not going to knock back the chance to sign Gibbs if he wants him just because we need other areas more. As long as by start of the season/2nd September he's got everything, that's what matters. It's not about the order it's about budget and spending a significant chunk of it on a left back when we have other areas which require more attention is my point. Gibbs is a decent player but 15 million could affect us strengthening other areas. A loan with an option to buy would be perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 We've got a Championship level left-back, bottom-6 standard left-back at the very best. £15m to upgrade that to a player who's top 8 quality is worth every single penny. Particularly when we have no idea how Lascelles and Clark are going to do in this league yet, Lejeune/Semedo would be new to the league, Yedlin's only played half a season or so in the Premier League. £20m to get Reina & Gibbs would be money very well spent to accompany that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 People actually griping about us signing Gibbs . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 We almost never started building up our attacks on the left because our LB can barely pass a ball! Which makes us so one dimensional and easy to read where the opposition can focus on letting us starting down the right or centrally and then press us with many players and make it more difficult for us. Not having a proper LW doesn't help either mind. Sick of seeing Dummett take so much time on the ball before he plays it, which 9 times out of 10 is back to our CB. A quality LB would make a massive difference, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a Marcelo attacking type of LB. One that is good defensively and talented enough to handle the ball to a decent level would be a start. At times it feels like some people think Dummett is good defensively just because he's below average going forward, while in fact he's an average player defensively as well, even though he's quite "consistent". For what it's worth, I don't think Gibbs would cost 15m tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 We almost never started building up our attacks on the left because our LB can barely pass a ball! Which makes us so one dimensional and easy to read where the opposition can focus on letting us starting down the right or centrally and then press us with many players and make it more difficult for us. Not having a proper LW doesn't help either mind. Sick of seeing Dummett take so much time on the ball before he plays it, which 9 times out of 10 is back to our CB. A quality LB would make a massive difference, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a Marcelo attacking type of LB. One that is good defensively and talented enough to handle the ball to a decent level would be a start. At times it feels like some people think Dummett is good defensively just because he's below average going forward, while in fact he's an average player defensively as well, even though he's quite "consistent". Nail on head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Think Gibbs is fine, but I think we could get better for £15 million to be honest. Or the similar level player for a fair bit less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 We almost never started building up our attacks on the left because our LB can barely pass a ball! Which makes us so one dimensional and easy to read where the opposition can focus on letting us starting down the right or centrally and then press us with many players and make it more difficult for us. Not having a proper LW doesn't help either mind. Sick of seeing Dummett take so much time on the ball before he plays it, which 9 times out of 10 is back to our CB. A quality LB would make a massive difference, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a Marcelo attacking type of LB. One that is good defensively and talented enough to handle the ball to a decent level would be a start. At times it feels like some people think Dummett is good defensively just because he's below average going forward, while in fact he's an average player defensively as well, even though he's quite "consistent". For what it's worth, I don't think Gibbs would cost 15m tbh. I used to think the same about Simpson. Then he went on to be a first team player in a league winning team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I'd still prefer us to sign one of Semedo or Lejeune, and then get a Shawcross, Phil Jones, Ashley Williams type alongside him mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Think Gibbs is fine, but I think we could get better for £15 million to be honest. Or the similar level player for a fair bit less. could risk mbabu in that position - but reports suggest rafa doesnt fancy him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Dummett is no worse than Simpson was, both limited but as proven by Simpson's Champions medal, fine as part of a well functioning team. Would prefer Gibbs but not at the sacrifice of other key areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Yeah, someone like Semedo theoretically replaces Clark in the team. You wouldn't really want them playing together. We absolutely don't have a natural partner for a Semedo type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Saying that I've no idea what sort of player Lejeune is. He might be a beast for all I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Is it a forgone conclusion that we'll play four at the back and with a single striker up top? I'm starting to have doubts. It's amazing to me how quickly the division en masse adopted a three-man backline. I assume that Rafa is putting together a side to cope with that. He built a side specifically for Championship football and now he's building one for the PL. Exciting times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Yeah, someone like Semedo theoretically replaces Clark in the team. You wouldn't really want them playing together. We absolutely don't have a natural partner for a Semedo type. What do you base this on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Odd question. The fact that Semedo's young, without PL experience, more of a ball player and anticipator from the limited occasions I've seen him and what I've heard. Pretty obvious you've got to partner such a player with an experienced leader who can play the stopper role. Hanley and Lascelles I don't want starting for us in the PL and Mbemba's not of that style likely to be sold anyway. That leaves Clark, who as I've said, himself needs said type alongside him if he's to start for us next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 From what I understand while he's a decent passer from a CB, I'm pretty sure he's mostly known for his physicality in terms of his aggression and pace etc. Obviously the Benfica fans we have on here would be able to confirm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 We almost never started building up our attacks on the left because our LB can barely pass a ball! Which makes us so one dimensional and easy to read where the opposition can focus on letting us starting down the right or centrally and then press us with many players and make it more difficult for us. Not having a proper LW doesn't help either mind. Sick of seeing Dummett take so much time on the ball before he plays it, which 9 times out of 10 is back to our CB. A quality LB would make a massive difference, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a Marcelo attacking type of LB. One that is good defensively and talented enough to handle the ball to a decent level would be a start. At times it feels like some people think Dummett is good defensively just because he's below average going forward, while in fact he's an average player defensively as well, even though he's quite "consistent". Nail on head. We need to unearth the new Jose Enrique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just sign him permanently please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Based on FIFA - Semedo is a big physical unit but not blessed with pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Never rated Gibbs fwiw. Injury prone. Suspect defensively. Not tremendously effective going forward but a decent footballer. But that's watching him for Arsenal comparing him to Cole, Evra etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Never rated Gibbs fwiw. Suspect defensively. Yeah that's not true at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Based on FIFA - Semedo is a big physical unit but not blessed with pace. Based on YouTube he looks very quick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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