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Not to poke the hornets nest of the debate again with his fervent supporters on one side and people who are right on the other, but he should definitely go.

 

Of course he should, I doubt there is a Newcastle fan on this planet that thinks otherwise.

 

Whether we get anywhere near what we want for him is another matter entirely.

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Wonder if this means we've got a deal for a striker lined up.

 

I'd be surprised if we aren't looking to buy a Premier class striker, even if he's over 30 as long as the price is right. Can't see Rafa wanting to go into the new season hoping Gayle stays fit.

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Hmm, would be a lot more optimistic of him going and/or getting that fee, had they (or any club) approached us for him.

 

Surely it doesn't give the selling club a position of strength in a deal, when you/the agent is touting the player around?  :undecided:

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Well-spoken managers like Martinez are always likely to overhyped by open-shirts, presentation-over-content type coverage like MOTD when things are going well. This kind of excessive build-em-up sets things up for a stronger knock-em-down when the pendulum swings the other way. Managers don't get long these days to begin with.

 

Martinez inherited a brilliant back four from Moyes, with the only issue being Distin's age. They shouldn't have ended up with the problems they did, even with allowances for Europa League fatigue.

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Has this already been posted??

 

“He (James McCarthy) is a good player but we now have a lot of them at this club.

 

“We have been linked with around 100 players but he is not our first target at the moment.”

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If I was Lyon, I'd be seriously wondering why we are offering Mitrovic to them.

 

If we want 18m we won't get that. We must be desperate for the cash, in order to fund other deals.

 

I hope we dont loan him out either, that would be a waste of time.

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Sounds quite similar to McCarthy but about £20m cheaper.

Nah McCarthy is actually a very good midfielder defensively. He tends to hide when his team is in possession though, never seems to want a pass, even though he is decent technically so perhaps that could be worked on. Clucas from what I saw wasn't great defensively but was always making himself an option for a pass off the ball

 

Eamonn Dunphy in the Irish media called him a waste of space and all but suggested he'd conspired to get his manager (Martinez) sacked.

 

Even if there's a snippet of truth in that I'd stay well clear

 

Eamonn Dunphy makes a living from talking and writing s*** [emoji38] I absolutely love him but he really doesn't have a clue. Martinez loved McCarthy

 

This. Martinez's Everton with McCarthy in it were excellent by and large. It was only when he was out injured for a while that the wheels come off.

 

Everton fans I speak to say the reason the wheels fell off was because Martinez was useless and couldn't organise a defence for love or money.  McCarthy is a good player though.

 

They weren't saying that when McCarthy was in the team and they were fighting for top four. It was when he got injured in his second season and they were defensively more open that the criticism was levelled at Martinez. Fairly so to some level but I seem to recall he lost Baines and Jagielka to various medium term injuries whilst Mori's was adjusting to life in the league also which compounded his demise there.

 

This is total rubbish tbh mate.

 

Martinez is a terrible manager, ridiculously stubborn and arrogant in sticking with the same rigid tactics that do not work. Completely incapable of coaching a defence or organising a team. He didn't even practice attacking or defending set pieces in training, which was blatantly obvious on the pitch. His first season was a success because he inherited Moyes' defence which was rock solid and had been one of the best in the league for donkeys years. Within 12 months he had completely ruined it and we were a farce at the back. His downfall was nothing to do with McCarthy or injuries.

 

As for McCarthy, he's not much of a passer and doesn't get forward enough when the game opens up for him but he can be excellent at breaking up play and has a good engine. He was really good for us in his first season. Second and third seasons he was rubbish whenever he played between injuries. Last season, he struggled with injuries again but was good when he played. Seemed to regain his form under Koeman. He'd be good to keep as a back-up/rotation player but is probably too valuable not to cash in on and he earns about 50k a week.

 

Something Newcastle fans will have to get used to if you sign McCarthy is the whole Irish circus. O'Neill and Keane have rushed him back from injury two or three times now, causing him to break down again. When Koeman complains about this, they then slag Everton off in the media. The good thing about selling him would be never having to read another article about the latest nonsense from that pair of pricks.

When you say rubbish you mean non of this happened?

 

Everton fans happy with Martinez 1st season not the 2nd.

Played with attacking flair to achieve 5th.

McCarthy along with that back four was vital to Martinez's team that first season and they were missed when injured.

 

I never said it was Martinez's defence. I never said he could organise one or adapt without key players missing hence stating the criticism of him was justified at times.

 

I never said McCarthy was a great forward passer. You agreed he was good first season and not the same since injury.

 

Starting to think you meant to reply to someone else :lol:

 

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Sissoko is more an athlete than a footballer, his actual ability with a football is poor.

 

This.

 

That's why I never understood the lazy accusations as the one thing he did do was run.

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If I was Lyon, I'd be seriously wondering why we are offering Mitrovic to them.

 

If we want 18m we won't get that. We must be desperate for the cash, in order to fund other deals.

 

I hope we dont loan him out either, that would be a waste of time.

 

If we could sell him and replace him with real quality I would keep Murphy

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Has this already been posted??

 

“He (James McCarthy) is a good player but we now have a lot of them at this club.

 

“We have been linked with around 100 players but he is not our first target at the moment.”

 

Who's quote is it?

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Murphy won't stay. We are just waiting for the right price.

 

Which Murphy? ;)

 

That big lumpy ex Makem one

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