TRon Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Wonder if people are baulking at Hanley's wages so Mbemba is being sacrificed instead to raise the funds. He was likely 4th choice anyway, Hanley isn't the worst 4th choice centre-back to have. Could see it happening. Don't know if i agree, Hanley didn't look all that in the championship so i shudder to think what he would be like in the PL. Agree with that. Mbemba has a bit of pace so can cope with stepping up to the Premier, I don't think Hanley could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If we have to sell Mbemba because no one wants Hanley then buying Hanley was a horrendous mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Tbf bringing players in on big wages and then not playing them much is an issue when trying to sell them It wouldn't be such an issue if we didn't already have a ton of shit players we can't shift. I don't think Hanley or Lazaar are that big a problem compared to Colback, Saivet, Riviere, Mitro? and maybe De Jong. Out of that I would only keep De Jong. For every Lazaar and Hanley we have signed Ritchie, Gayle, Clark and Hayden who I would consider a success. We may end up with 1 or 2 shit players from Murphy, Lejuene, Manquillo and Atsu with Manquillo and Atsu the likely 2 to fail this season imho. We should probably offload Diame as well. We need at least 4-5 more players and at least Striker, Centre Mid and Attacking Mid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If we have to sell Mbemba because no one wants Hanley then buying Hanley was a horrendous mistake. That view would depend a lot on hindsight. We bought a lot of players to get us out of the championship and it worked. Now Rafa is being penalised for it by us having to put off buying Premier class players until we've sold those same players who took us up. It's pretty disgusting stuff if that's how it's playing out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If we have to sell Mbemba because no one wants Hanley then buying Hanley was a horrendous mistake. Buying Hanley was a mistake. As was Gamez, as was Lazaar. As was Saivet. Riviere. The list goes on. Only squad buy last season worthy was Murphy,and you can see why hes been purchased fairly quickly. Some of the players we have stuck with us will be pretty difficult to shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 No idea of source like hopefully true http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/rafa-benitez-has-a-message-for-his-players-ahead-of-clearout-at-newcastle-1-8665570 No sign of any inside knowledge there. Anyone could have come up with that list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 It's a pretty believable list tbh, i can definitely see Rafa wanting to get rid of all those players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Zero chance we'll find buyers for all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Zero chance we'll find buyers for all of them. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If we have to sell Mbemba because no one wants Hanley then buying Hanley was a horrendous mistake. Buying Hanley was a mistake. As was Gamez, as was Lazaar. As was Saivet. Riviere. The list goes on. Only squad buy last season worthy was Murphy,and you can see why hes been purchased fairly quickly. Some of the players we have stuck with us will be pretty difficult to shift. That's bollocks, Hanley would'be been essential if we'd had one more injury, same with Gamez. Murphy wouldn't have been needed if Gayle had been fit. Saivet, Riviere, yes they are shit players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If we have to sell Mbemba because no one wants Hanley then buying Hanley was a horrendous mistake. Buying Hanley was a mistake. As was Gamez, as was Lazaar. As was Saivet. Riviere. The list goes on. Only squad buy last season worthy was Murphy,and you can see why hes been purchased fairly quickly. Some of the players we have stuck with us will be pretty difficult to shift. That's bollocks, Hanley would'be been essential if we'd had one more injury, same with Gamez. Murphy wouldn't have been needed if Gayle had been fit. Saivet, Riviere, yes they are shit players. Like I said in the earlier post, everyone's a genius in hindsight. Rafa bought those players to get us promoted and we got promoted. Now he's being punished for it because we want them gone before buying Premier class players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Would keep De Jong and Mbemba tbh. Let Krul go if we get another keeper in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Would keep De Jong and Mbemba tbh. Let Krul go if we get another keeper in. Same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Went into this season with such enthusiasm on recruitment, now with our transfer fecking about, the limited joy has been suck right out of it. Feel the same, but it would quickly come back if we managed two or three more good signings before the end. Aye, but we've said that before, well it feels like it anyhoo, thinking a star signing might happen. God I hate this club at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 It has to be said that some of Rafa signing has been disappointing and is part of the reason for so many dead woods. Hanley. Lazaar. Gamez. Diame. Aye. Murphy did his job. Ritchie, Clark & Gayle core reasons for the promotion. Yedlin & Atsu did well too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I don't think Rafa rates De Jong or Mbemba. Sell both asap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Wonder if people are baulking at Hanley's wages so Mbemba is being sacrificed instead to raise the funds. He was likely 4th choice anyway, Hanley isn't the worst 4th choice centre-back to have. Could see it happening. Think this is reasonable, the only issue I can see is that Hanley was mildly spitting his dummy out last season about not playing whereas there wasn't much from Mbemba in that regard (unless I missed it). Would still rather lose Hanley than Mbemba, but it's not critical either way. Mbemba can also play RB (sorta). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If De Jong can stay fit he could arguably be our best player. Granted I'm judging him on his time at Ajax but still. There's a very, very good no.10 in there somewhere. The sort of player we've been missing for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If we have to sell Mbemba because no one wants Hanley then buying Hanley was a horrendous mistake. Buying Hanley was a mistake. As was Gamez, as was Lazaar. As was Saivet. Riviere. The list goes on. Only squad buy last season worthy was Murphy,and you can see why hes been purchased fairly quickly. Some of the players we have stuck with us will be pretty difficult to shift. That's bollocks, Hanley would'be been essential if we'd had one more injury, same with Gamez. Murphy wouldn't have been needed if Gayle had been fit. Saivet, Riviere, yes they are shit players. Im not sure? Obviously you need cover for injuries. But im not sure the outley on some of them was necessary. Hanley cost more than Clark. Its not about blaming Rafa as I bet Carr was behind most recommended targets. I just believe we could struggle to make any profit on many if we need to sell these players on, maybe even struggle to get the same back? I dunno? It would be a shame to be stuck with players we just dont need. Typically players like Riviere. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hanley's the furthest from a Carr target I could ever imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If De Jong can stay fit he could arguably be our best player. Granted I'm judging him on his time at Ajax but still. There's a very, very good no.10 in there somewhere. The sort of player we've been missing for years. The timing is wrong to sell him unless we have a top attacking midfielder lined up to sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hanley's the furthest from a Carr target I could ever imagine. If he was French he wouldn't be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Rename him Granit Le Han and flog him to some ligue 2 side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Isn't it time to sign some more players soon, no? Such lack of ambition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Isn't it time to sign some more players soon, no? Such lack of ambition We have to get rid some of the deadwood as well and that's easier said than done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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