Teasy Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Colback was terrible even in the Championship though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 For example, Colback even couldn't perform for us in a Championship level. So any Championship team taking colback is like buying a poison pill and swallow it. Not so many idiots out there right? Colback is shit but this is a a load of bollocks. Colback and Hanley in particular would be good championship players for most sides. The problem is that they are on higher wages than they are worth. The players themselves are going to have to take a pay cut if they want first team football. Colback would be a good championship player for most sides? On what evidence? He was a shit championship player for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The high wage itself is the poison pill...that's what we are taking now, useless rubbish with high wages. Take Hanley for example, reported to be 40K+ per week, couldn't defend against forest, Jesus. He is hurting us everyday until he left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 We rarely buy marketable players. I can only think of half a dozen in a decade. Cabaye, Sissoko, Remy, Ba, Hatem, Winjaldum...We got lucky with Enrique and Bassong. I'd say in this window possibly Lejeune will be marketable. We buy mainly dross and it's been going on since Ashley took over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 We rarely buy marketable players. I can only think of half a dozen in a decade. Cabaye, Sissoko, Remy, Ba, Hatem, Winjaldum...We got lucky with Enrique and Bassong. I'd say in this window possibly Lejeune will be marketable. We buy mainly dross and it's been going on since Ashley took over. Aye, Merino's going to be a drain on this club for years. Just like Atsu. What wasters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Origi would be quality, yet no chance of it happening IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Origi's the best striker we've been linked too all window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 We rarely buy marketable players. I can only think of half a dozen in a decade. Cabaye, Sissoko, Remy, Ba, Hatem, Winjaldum...We got lucky with Enrique and Bassong. I'd say in this window possibly Lejeune will be marketable. We buy mainly dross and it's been going on since Ashley took over. Aye, Merino's going to be a drain on this club for years. Just like Atsu. What wasters. Yeah cause that was my point. We haven't bought quality in any significant numbers under Ashley. Maybe one or two a season at best. ie Hence why most of our players are hard to shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Bizarre that we're trying to sign a striker when we are incredibly weak at both GK, LB and #10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Bizarre that we're trying to sign a striker when we are incredibly weak at both GK, LB and #10. Probably cause a credible No.10 will be expensive and clubs like to hold onto good keepers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 How predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 For example, Colback even couldn't perform for us in a Championship level. So any Championship team taking colback is like buying a poison pill and swallow it. Not so many idiots out there right? Colback is shit but this is a a load of bollocks. Colback and Hanley in particular would be good championship players for most sides. The problem is that they are on higher wages than they are worth. The players themselves are going to have to take a pay cut if they want first team football. Colback would be a good championship player for most sides? On what evidence? He was a shit championship player for us. He played loads of games for the side who won the championship. In the championship, stuff like that gets noticed. I imagine most mid table championship sides would take Colback. Like I say, wages are the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Wouldn't mind a Gayle sale and buying Batshuayi. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 For example, Colback even couldn't perform for us in a Championship level. So any Championship team taking colback is like buying a poison pill and swallow it. Not so many idiots out there right? Colback is shit but this is a a load of bollocks. Colback and Hanley in particular would be good championship players for most sides. The problem is that they are on higher wages than they are worth. The players themselves are going to have to take a pay cut if they want first team football. Colback would be a good championship player for most sides? On what evidence? He was a shit championship player for us. He played loads of games for the side who won the championship. In the championship, stuff like that gets noticed. I imagine most mid table championship sides would take Colback. Like I say, wages are the issue. That's not the same as him being a good championship player. We won the league in spite of him, not because of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 For Ashley's 'strategy' to make sense we'd have to have a world class scouting network. So it's been clear for a decade his strategy is just smoke and mirrors to buy mainly punts and shit and the odd good player. You can't shift shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Not really, during the fat c*** era we always try to buy players with obvious bargain price like Cabaye and Ben Arfa, players with resale value like Enrique and Wijnaldum, or buy dirt cheap players like Leon Best. I am pretty sure as a businessman the fat cunt would hate high paid rubbish most, and always tried his best to prevent this from happening. The problem, however, is that we are f***ing s*** in other many areas that resulted total failure both on and off the pitch, like - s*** managers who couldn't bring out the best of the players (apply to all) - extremely poor scouting that players aren't thoroughly evaluated (Cabella, Thauvin, de Jong) - Dodgy signings where the players are simply a fraud (Boumsong, Riviere, saivet) - failed experiment (Hanley, Lazaar, but they will be forgiven because they are from Rafa) Ultimately it is down to f***ing poor management skills and s*** scouting work (if what Carr did can be classified as work). They simply don't know how to run a football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Not really, during the fat cunt era we always try to buy players with obvious bargain price like Cabaye and Ben Arfa, players with resale value like Enrique and Wijnaldum, or buy dirt cheap players like Leon Best. The problem, however, is that we are fucking shit in other many areas that resulted total failure both on and off the pitch, like - shit managers who couldn't bring out the best of the players (apply to all) - extremely poor scouting that players aren't thoroughly evaluated (Cabella, Thauvin, de Jong) - Dodgy signings where the players are simply a fraud (Boumsong, Riviere, saivet) - failed experiment (Hanley, Lazaar, but they will be forgiven because they are from Rafa) Ultimately it is down to fucking poor management skills and shit scouting work (if what Carr did can be classified as work). They simply don't know how to run a football club. We've bought about 6 good players in 10 years. 10 fucking years! As you say the rest are dodgy, poorly researched or cheap punts. They can't even lie convincingly about their strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 If we really wanted to get rid of them we could. Even if it meant we paid 20% of their wages until their contracts with us ran out, we could without doubt find buyers. If someone offered £2m for Colback you'd take it! Clubs who have just been promoted like Sheff Utd or Bolton would take someone like Hanley, Diame, or Darlow! I just think that the club is run so poorly and quite reluctant to sell players for less than what we bought them for that nothing gets done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 If we really wanted to get rid of them we could. Even if it meant we paid 20% of their wages until their contracts with us ran out, we could without doubt find buyers. If someone offered £2m for Colback you'd take it! Clubs who have just been promoted like Sheff Utd or Bolton would take someone like Hanley, Diame, or Darlow! I just think that the club is run so poorly and quite reluctant to sell players for less than what we bought them for that nothing gets done. I don't want to defend them but it's not always on the club tbf, in some cases like with Haidara the player just flat out refuses to move and run his contract down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Without a doubt we are still making signings, or certainly up until Rafa came, that were favors for agents. You look at players like Saivet who has barely kicked a ball for us in his time. There's been an endless amount of rank players who have barely ever featured for us. The fact they are shite is obviously a factor but imo strengthen the case of it being a favor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Should have just went and got Begovic in the summer. But you know, high fees and logic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Nah I mean in the fat cunt point of view, we have been doing our very best to avoid deadwood. Of course the result is complete failure due to many reasons. That said, I am pretty sure that the fat cunt won't be disappointed for deals like Colback and Marveaux because they are cheap punt, but must be furious for deals like Hanley and Lazaar because they cost real money but end up useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Leon Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I won't be surprised if Carr end up in jail for those dodgy French signings, FYI. Carr is one of the main reasons why we were in deep shit. Those players which apparently looks like good deals are mostly frauds, not suitable to EPL, or not suitable to the team needs. Those are very poor signings or a waste of money in football sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Leon Best I like this cheap punt, the YouTube video is always my fav Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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