STM Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 D- perhaps. Or U, for not even showing up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 We did some good things, just not nearly enough of them. Massively frustrating and can only hope it doesn't bite us in the arse, whether that's by being in a relegation battle or ensuring the manager decides prospects are better elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 We did some good things, just not nearly enough of them. Massively frustrating and can only hope it doesn't bite us in the arse, whether that's by being in a relegation battle or ensuring the manager decides prospects are better elsewhere. We did good things but even in signing Lejeune it was because he had a release clause. Had he not had a clause, no way would we have paid what he's worth. Merino is an excellent signing but we couldn't even afford to stump up 6m or whatever this summer. It's all very embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 We did some good things, just not nearly enough of them. Massively frustrating and can only hope it doesn't bite us in the arse, whether that's by being in a relegation battle or ensuring the manager decides prospects are better elsewhere. We did good things but even in signing Lejeune it was because he had a release clause. Had he not had a clause, no way would we have paid what he's worth. Merino is an excellent signing but we couldn't even afford to stump up 6m or whatever this summer. It's all very embarrassing. We hardly ever go out and buy a player because it's position we need to fill and just say lets get the best player we can for that position. It's always finding out who's out of favour, has a release clause etc. It's pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 We did some good things, just not nearly enough of them. Massively frustrating and can only hope it doesn't bite us in the arse, whether that's by being in a relegation battle or ensuring the manager decides prospects are better elsewhere. We did good things but even in signing Lejeune it was because he had a release clause. Had he not had a clause, no way would we have paid what he's worth. Merino is an excellent signing but we couldn't even afford to stump up 6m or whatever this summer. It's all very embarrassing. And it still took two months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Bare in mind Merino looks like he could be our new Cabaye, and Lejuene was poached for a cheap-ish buy out fee. Would people rate this window better had we spend 12 mil on Merino instead of a loan, and got Lejuene in for upwards of 12mil aswell. The window was a disappointment in the fact we only got 6 players, yet no LB, no# 10 or striker. But if we had bought those two and had an outlay of 50mil instead of 35mil, would people be happier? Sometimes I feel like our NET spend dictates our effective transfer business to much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 There would still be huge gaps in the squad and a lack of quality so I doubt anyone would think any differently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 There would still be huge gaps in the squad and a lack of quality so I doubt anyone would think any differently I appreciate that, but all I see on twitter is our 11 million NET spend. As if that automatically means our acquisition of players like Merino was pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 No. Before the window opened everyone had their own opinion but a common thread was that we needed a LB, #10 and GK. I think they were the positions most people thought that we needed to strengthen, maybe striker too, and we've completely failed in all of them. Merino is a great addition and I think Lejeune will turn out to be a shrewd purchase but the two of them are nowhere near the business we needed to do to make sure we had a competitive squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Net spend is crap these days. Everton's would have pretty much been nil had Barkley not cancelled last minute but they'd have had a superb window. Huddersfield and Brighton's seems high because they had no one to sell, low wages etc so could afford to spend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 There would still be huge gaps in the squad and a lack of quality so I doubt anyone would think any differently I appreciate that, but all I see on twitter is our 11 million NET spend. As if that automatically means our acquisition of players like Merino was pointless. It's pointing the finger at us having money to spend and not doing so where it's needed. It's the easiest thing to point at because it's so obvious considering the spending of other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Net spend is crap these days. Everton's would have pretty much been nil had Barkley not cancelled last minute but they'd have had a superb window. Huddersfield and Brighton's seems high because they had no one to sell, low wages etc so could afford to spend Jury's probably still out to see if Everton have had a superb window or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Bare in mind Merino looks like he could be our new Cabaye, and Lejuene was poached for a cheap-ish buy out fee. Would people rate this window better had we spend 12 mil on Merino instead of a loan, and got Lejuene in for upwards of 12mil aswell. The window was a disappointment in the fact we only got 6 players, yet no LB, no# 10 or striker. But if we had bought those two and had an outlay of 50mil instead of 35mil, would people be happier? Sometimes I feel like our NET spend dictates our effective transfer business to much. I'd be happy if we'd been honest with the manager about the budget/type of players he could sign instead of lying to him and making him waste a huge amount of time on deals we had no intention of doing tbh. So the answer would be no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 No matter how you look at it. Our defence has moved forward massively under Rafa. At least we dont have to think about a relegation fight with Colo & Taylor anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Net spend is crap these days. Everton's would have pretty much been nil had Barkley not cancelled last minute but they'd have had a superb window. Huddersfield and Brighton's seems high because they had no one to sell, low wages etc so could afford to spend Yeah but our net spend over ten years is less than 50m quid, which makes it impossible for anyone to cloud the issue here surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 It's a fair point about whether our NET spend has an affect on what's viewed as a successful window. Had we spent 15m each, say, on Lejeune and Merino it would make our transfer window as a bigger success IMO. How much we pay on fees, in comparison to our rivals, basically is a sign of our ambition and such things matter in the football world. Whether we are willing to pay to the going rate on wages and transfers, goes along with players and agents. If it's clear that we are only looking for a bargain or a release clause, how are we ever going to get the players we want? I wouldn't be surprised if some agents flat out refuse to deal with us because of the tight arse nature of our chiefs. If we are willing to pay the price for players, it would be a start and I'd be willing to give them the benefit of doubt over the amount of players we get through the door (quality over quantity and all that), but it's clear that neither quality nor quantity matter. We will do the bare minimum to survive and only start acting seriously once things have gone wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 It's a fair point about whether our NET spend has an affect on what's viewed as a successful window. Had we spent 15m each, say, on Lejeune and Merino it would make our transfer window as a bigger success IMO. How much we pay on fees, in comparison to our rivals, basically is a sign of our ambition and such things matter in the football world. Whether we are willing to pay to the going rate on wages and transfers, goes along with players and agents. If it's clear that we are only looking for a bargain or a release clause, how are we ever going to get the players we want? I wouldn't be surprised if some agents flat out refuse to deal with us because of the tight arse nature of our chiefs. If we are willing to pay the price for players, it would be a start and I'd be willing to give them the benefit of doubt over the amount of players we get through the door (quality over quantity and all that), but it's clear that neither quality nor quantity matter. We will do the bare minimum to survive and only start acting seriously once things have gone wrong. No way a window in which we failed to sign a goalscorer or first choice goalkeeper would be considered good no matter how much the other signings had cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 It's more the expenditure to me. Premier league teams are now consistently spending over 20m on players even the bottom feeders like Bournemouth and palace are. We will never ever compete because Ashley will not spend over 15m let alone over 20 or 25m. When you see players like Danny Drinkwater going for 35m you realise we don't belong in this league with Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 So tin hat on here like buuuut assume Rafa stays, keeps us up and Ashley doesn't renege on his public statement about having all the money the club earns would we not theoretically be in a decent position next summer? Obviously I guess we'll only get to spend this season's money (unlike other teams) but it would have to be better than this summer you'd think. I mean approach it from the pov that Ashley isn't an absolute cunt and Rafa holds him to the money statement. Rafa seems to have done very, very well to me on a piss poor budget, would love to let him have one decent crack at spending some money at least :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 So tin hat on here like buuuut assume Rafa stays, keeps us up and Ashley doesn't renege on his public statement about having all the money the club earns would we not theoretically be in a decent position next summer? Obviously I guess we'll only get to spend this season's money (unlike other teams) but it would have to be better than this summer you'd think. I mean approach it from the pov that Ashley isn't an absolute cunt and Rafa holds him to the money statement. Rafa seems to have done very, very well to me on a piss poor budget, would love to let him have one decent crack at spending some money at least :/ Wake up man in 12 months there will be no Rafa and no Premier league....but hey there will still be Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm under no illusions like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 So tin hat on here like buuuut assume Rafa stays, keeps us up and Ashley doesn't renege on his public statement about having all the money the club earns would we not theoretically be in a decent position next summer? Obviously I guess we'll only get to spend this season's money (unlike other teams) but it would have to be better than this summer you'd think. I mean approach it from the pov that Ashley isn't an absolute c*** and Rafa holds him to the money statement. Rafa seems to have done very, very well to me on a p*ss poor budget, would love to let him have one decent crack at spending some money at least :/ We would be, but the trust between Rafa and Ashley has completely disintegrated. Rightly so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 So tin hat on here like buuuut assume Rafa stays, keeps us up and Ashley doesn't renege on his public statement about having all the money the club earns would we not theoretically be in a decent position next summer? Obviously I guess we'll only get to spend this season's money (unlike other teams) but it would have to be better than this summer you'd think. I mean approach it from the pov that Ashley isn't an absolute c*** and Rafa holds him to the money statement. Rafa seems to have done very, very well to me on a p*ss poor budget, would love to let him have one decent crack at spending some money at least :/ Wake up man in 12 months there will be no Rafa and no Premier league....but hey there will still be Ashley I'm.not as sure it's as simple as that mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Mojo's got a point, but there's already reports in the press Ashley will take 33 million of this seasons money for himself so its unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Mojo's got a point, but there's already reports in the press Ashley will take 33 million of this seasons money for himself so its unlikely. Haha well if that's true we're totally done on more than one level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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