Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I can't believe the negative comments about this guy after one game, some people on here just follow the status quo and think what other people tell them rather than judge for themselves It's not just one game like, we've seen him play for villa many times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Not just that. Other teams fans are generally the most knowledgable about their club and players and brummie along with most of the Villa faithful have told us what to expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Yep, there's a difference between posters passing hyperbolic early judgement of a player coming from overseas and having a strong opinion on a regular player from our division that will have been seen fairly frequently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Yep, there's a difference between posters passing hyperbolic early judgement of a player coming from overseas and having a strong opinion on a regular player from our division that will have been seen fairly frequently. Aye. Everyone has seen this lad. Villa & Ireland. And i'm sorry - £5m should net you a top Championship defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Damned if he does damned if he doesnt. If he goes for the ball he gives away the pen. If he doesn't then Reading score from open play. Disagree, their first touch took him away from goal, just had to stand his ground. No need for the stupid lunge. But if he had tried to close him down and he had scored you would be complaining that he should have tried to win the ball. Damned if he doesnt..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 The silly thing with the pen was that the challenge wasn't necessary. Oppo player had back to goal and was surrounded by our players. Just needed to be harassed back out of the box before a challenge like that. Glad to hear he looked good with the ball at this feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Damned if he does damned if he doesnt. If he goes for the ball he gives away the pen. If he doesn't then Reading score from open play. Disagree, their first touch took him away from goal, just had to stand his ground. No need for the stupid lunge. But if he had tried to close him down and he had scored you would be complaining that he should have tried to win the ball. Damned if he doesnt..... Tbf Reading had a bit to do to score from that position. One guy moving away from goal and another guy marked in the penalty area. You shouldn't really go to ground in the box unless you KNOW you're going to get the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I can't believe the negative comments about this guy after one game, some people on here just follow the status quo and think what other people tell them rather than judge for themselves Really? Did you see the game? He was s*** from start to finish. What a load of shit, yes I was at the game and to say he was shit for start to finish is just wrong and I can't believe people on here are judging a player on what disgruntled fans think rather than watching him and forming their own opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Aye that's a shower like. Better than Lascelles in his first two games and Hanley's debut Imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 He was directly responsible for the goal, therefore he had a poor game. That said, he's not a right - off. Technically he seemed competent enough (his mistake aside) but he needs alot of guidance in terms of positional play. I think he will have his use over the full season, as will Hanley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 He made a mistake, that doesn't necessarily mean he had a poor game. Defenders tend to be responsible for almost every goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 He was directly responsible for the goal, therefore he had a poor game. That said, he's not a right - off. Technically he seemed competent enough (his mistake aside) but he needs alot of guidance in terms of positional play. I think he will have his use over the full season, as will Hanley. So with that logic if you have one bad moment in one game you've had a bad game therefore if you have one bad game in a season you've had a bad season. Guess that one bad moment equals a ruined career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 By that logic our CB pairing is Mbemba and we're back to Hanley until the next costs us a goal and Lascelles is back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Seemed to be good on the ball and have decent movement. Get him at LB to replace Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I can't believe the negative comments about this guy after one game, some people on here just follow the status quo and think what other people tell them rather than judge for themselves Really? Did you see the game? He was s*** from start to finish. What a load of shit, yes I was at the game and to say he was shit for start to finish is just wrong and I can't believe people on here are judging a player on what disgruntled fans think rather than watching him and forming their own opinion They're not though, he has a lot of Premier league appearances that people have seen first hand. Even just watching him vs us he's looked really dodgy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 His distribution was a bit all over the place. There were a few really intelligent and accurate passes he played when under pressure from their forwards, but then he completely panicked and scuffed the ball 20 yards to their midfield a couple of times when he had all the time in the world. Obviously the pen was a dreadful touch and a shit tackle, but outside of that he seemed alright. The problem in the defence last night was Dummett happily putting the ball out for a corner every two minutes and playing like he was on smack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 By that logic our CB pairing is Mbemba and we're back to Hanley until the next costs us a goal and Lascelles is back. I don't think we'll have a fixed pair at the back for a while yet, at the moment no partnership has looked anywhere near as good as it was in our last few games last season. We'll be rotating players when we have midweek games anyway, I think Hanley and Clark will see plenty of game time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Isn't Hanley a highly rated Championship player?! Feels like the general attitude towards him on here is that he's poor/can't be trusted. Surely we're not writing a player off because of he looks like a neanderthal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Hanley looked awful to me but it's too soon to write him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 He wasn't awful at all, against Fulham. Pretty sure he was rated as one of the division's best defenders last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Hanley's an average CB. Good enough for this league, not really good enough for long-term. Ian doesn't like him because he fits the bruiser-type he loves to hate for some odd reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Isn't Hanley a highly rated Championship player?! Feels like the general attitude towards him on here is that he's poor/can't be trusted. Surely we're not writing a player off because of he looks like a neanderthal? I thought Hanley did okay in the opener, it was Lascelles who dropped the clanger. He could do with an extra yard of pace by the looks of it, but defensively he looked quite solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Hanley's an average CB. Good enough for this league, not really good enough for long-term. Ian doesn't like him because he fits the bruiser-type he loves to hate for some odd reason. You can't make a post without slagging someone off. You must dress in drag at weekends... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Ronaldo please. I've said repeatedly that I just think he hasn't looked good so far. You've got this weird obsession with my taste in defenders because I like Mapou or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 You said Mascherano's your idea of what a good CB should be. Of course you're gonna be averse to that type of defender. I think you need a balance, ergo someone like Mbemba needs a dominant partner. Hopefully than can be Lascelles but Hanley isn't as bad as you've made out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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