Foluwashola Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Why would he be on the move? He's been playing plenty of late hasn't he? Dating Perrie from Little Mix whose from up here. Pretty much guaranteed the deal will go through. No idea why he's really being linked with a move away though. Really? Lucky bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Why would he be on the move? He's been playing plenty of late hasn't he? Dating Perrie from Little Mix whose from up here. Pretty much guaranteed the deal will go through. No idea why he's really being linked with a move away though. Really? Lucky b******. This has just ruined my night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I do think with Rafa in charge we would stay up comfortably even with the current squad, probably not top 10 or anything but comfortably above the bottom 3. However there's not many spots in the team that we don't need to strengthen if we want to try and kick on and have a solid PL team. In all honesty I would keep a fair amount of the current squad, but would hope for about 5-6 quality signings if and when we do go up. Would probably offload, Krul, Sels, Hanley, Tiote, Gouffran, Murphy, Perez, Colback, De Jong. Timmy because I think he would bring in a decent fee in an area we are well stocked, and the rest because they are shite or I'm not convinced they could do a PL job (or haven't done a PL job in the past) Would also not mind losing Mbemba, Dummett, Diame, possibly Clark if higher quality signings were made in those areas, Clark being the tough one because hes been our best central defender by far this season, and think he may improve further and have a good PL season with Rafa, others are basically solid players too but as I say, we could and probably will make improvements. I'm actually genuinely excited to see if we can attract some biggish names next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 If there were no changes,and we started a Premier League, with the current team, with a successful season and established playing style under their belts, would it inevitably be a constant struggle/relegation fight? I keep veering from thinking we would desperately need at least 6 players to blind faith in the current crop, I.e. some of the players are still developing and we'd already be better than some teams/competitive with most. Darlow Anita Lascelles Clark Dummett Ritchie Shelvey Hayden Atsu Diame Gayle Subs/Options: Hanley Lazaar Mbemba Yedlin Colback Guoffran Mitrovic Others: Mbabu Haidara Gamez Sterry Aarons Tiote de Jong Saivet Murphy Rivière Armstrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just looked at the strikers/forwards (inc clearly attacking midfielders) signed by Rafa at Liverpool: who are the only club he has really been at long enough to get a flavour of how he builds a squad (five top five finishes in five seasons, btw). The ones who stood out were: Luis Garcia 2004 (basically same role and importance as Coutinho has for Klopp's side), Morientes 2005, Bellamy 2006, Torres 2007, Keane 2008, N'gog 2008 (cover for Torres) Sterling 2010 (as one to watch). So mainly quick and creative and capable of playing a wide forward role (Kuyt springs to mind who apparently scored 15 goals one season from left wing/forward). However, add to this Crouch 2005, who according to the LFC fan-site Rafa turned from a laughing stock into an international. My reading of this is there is still hope for Mitro featuring and developing under Rafa, but probability is if he signs another striker it will be one in the Gayle mode, only perceived to be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Why would he be on the move? He's been playing plenty of late hasn't he? Dating Perrie from Little Mix whose from up here. Pretty much guaranteed the deal will go through. No idea why he's really being linked with a move away though. Yeah I'm sure she still spends all of her spare time in Sooth Shields like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I would look to make 3 or 4 high quality signings. Would be happy with 2 or 3 tbh. It takes players a while to get Rafa's system. Would rather 3 had to learn withrer than 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 After two cracking away wins, and given we're talking about related themes dotted around in a number of other threads, time to dust off this and start a little virtual planning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Can see us signing clucas if hull go down as he's been linked in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Can see us signing clucas if hull go down as he's been linked in Jan. I really like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louistoon Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Valdes from Boro would be worth a shout if they go down. We could do with some reliability there. Also a few players from Palace if they go down and maybe a Tom Ince, or two from the Championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I liked the look of Kachunga yesterday. Alternated between right and left wing, but nominally a striker. He's on lone from some German side I've never heard of, is 24, and looks like a Benetiz type forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I liked the look of Kachunga yesterday. Alternated between right and left wing, but nominally a striker. He's on lone from some German side I've never heard of, is 24, and looks like a Benetiz type forward. You've not heard of the Bundesliga club, Ingolstadt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I liked the look of Kachunga yesterday. Alternated between right and left wing, but nominally a striker. He's on lone from some German side I've never heard of, is 24, and looks like a Benetiz type forward. You've not heard of the Bundesliga club, Ingolstadt? Nope... I should feel embarrassed, shouldn't I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Would Ben Davies be a realistic option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Would Ben Davies be a realistic option? If we get Ryan Sessegnon, then maybe. Unlikely though. Might be a bit pricey too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We'll go foreign I think, for a striker especially. Won't mind whoever comes in as long as they're definitely Benitez's signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Only belive 4 of the current side are premiership ready. We would have to clear loads out. The fact Jack Colback can start games for us scares the shit out of me. Clark,Shelvey,Ritchie and a push Lacelles because he still has time. I would recoup as much as possible in sales if possible and have a complete overhaul. Also hopeful of a investment on top of that. This side would need major surgery or its just relegation all over again. Not sure Gayle would be the man to carry us and have all the pressure on him as our attacking outlet. A decent striker would be priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We'll probably need to concentrate looking for a manager first before signing anybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We'll probably need to concentrate looking for a manager first before signing anybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Only belive 4 of the current side are premiership ready. We would have to clear loads out. The fact Jack Colback can start games for us scares the shit out of me. Clark,Shelvey,Ritchie and a push Lacelles because he still has time. I would recoup as much as possible in sales if possible and have a complete overhaul. Also hopeful of a investment on top of that. This side would need major surgery or its just relegation all over again. Not sure Gayle would be the man to carry us and have all the pressure on him as our attacking outlet. A decent striker would be priority. Disagree wholeheartedly. Blowing up a squad that has gelled over the course of this season and trying to start from scratch is a recipe for disaster. We need to keep the core of the squad intact and strengthen key areas (LB, CB, CM, ST). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Watching Spurs v Everton, it is amazing the difference it would make to our team having someone like Wanyama sitting in midfield instead of Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 It's amazing the difference having Isaac Hayden makes instead of Colback tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Only belive 4 of the current side are premiership ready. We would have to clear loads out. The fact Jack Colback can start games for us scares the s*** out of me. Clark,Shelvey,Ritchie and a push Lacelles because he still has time. I would recoup as much as possible in sales if possible and have a complete overhaul. Also hopeful of a investment on top of that. This side would need major surgery or its just relegation all over again. Not sure Gayle would be the man to carry us and have all the pressure on him as our attacking outlet. A decent striker would be priority. Disagree wholeheartedly. Blowing up a squad that has gelled over the course of this season and trying to start from scratch is a recipe for disaster. We need to keep the core of the squad intact and strengthen key areas (LB, CB, CM, ST). Agreed. Especially with a manager so detailed and tactically drilled as Rafa. I think he'll look for 4/5 first teamers and maybe some gaps. I think it's clear he wants a winger, CM and a striker for the first XI at the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Only belive 4 of the current side are premiership ready. We would have to clear loads out. The fact Jack Colback can start games for us scares the shit out of me. Clark,Shelvey,Ritchie and a push Lacelles because he still has time. I would recoup as much as possible in sales if possible and have a complete overhaul. Also hopeful of a investment on top of that. This side would need major surgery or its just relegation all over again. Not sure Gayle would be the man to carry us and have all the pressure on him as our attacking outlet. A decent striker would be priority. Disagree wholeheartedly. Blowing up a squad that has gelled over the course of this season and trying to start from scratch is a recipe for disaster. We need to keep the core of the squad intact and strengthen key areas (LB, CB, CM, ST). Its hardly disagreeing wholeheartedly and then adding we need 4 or 5. The core of the squad are those I mentioned as reputable for the prem. But don't kid yourself that keeping hold of your Colback, Hanley,Mitro,Gamez, Dummett,and so many others should be trusted in the top division. I could also see a large number of the current loan players culled. I dont think we will take Atsu, and other players like Mbemba and others will surley want to leave. So perhaps a total overhaul will happen regardless. We can see who our consistent players are and they are the lads likely to maintain their status. The rest are very average. Almost forgot to add Anita & Gouffran also out of contract, will they be retained? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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