Mikky Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 There's no way any sort of punishment would be given to the club without the case going to trial, I can't see anyway that would happen before August. This More bargaining power for Rafa!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 There's no way any sort of punishment would be given to the club without the case going to trial, I can't see anyway that would happen before August. Start the prem season with a 10 point deduction. Least it gives are title rivals a bit of a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 If tax fraud is seen as illegal payments this could get nasty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 As powerful as the guys at HMRC are, I don't think they can impose sporting penalties on football teams. So hopefully this is just a fine for the financial side of the club type deal. We've definitely made signings as favours to agencies in France, but that's different to not paying your tax on them. Weird one, fingers crossed it doesn't impact the playing side though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Ashley probably squealed, hoping we get a transfer ban and we don't have to spend any money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 From the sounds of it it's tax and NI avoidance rather than dodgy payments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 As powerful as the guys at HMRC are, I don't think they can impose sporting penalties on football teams. So hopefully this is just a fine for the financial side of the club type deal. We've definitely made signings as favours to agencies in France, but that's difference to not paying your tax on them. Weird one, fingers crossed it doesn't impact the playing side though. Depends on what the leagues rules are. HMRC couldn't go beyond fining the business and maybe a jail term, the Premier league/football league on the other hand......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 HMRC must have been looking into this for a while as arrests have been made. So something/someone must have gone to HMRC I reckon folk will have been paying a lot of attention to Ashley for a while and I can imagine the authorities have been going through his finances with a fine tooth comb for some time in an effort to bring him down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 As powerful as the guys at HMRC are, I don't think they can impose sporting penalties on football teams. So hopefully this is just a fine for the financial side of the club type deal. We've definitely made signings as favours to agencies in France, but that's different to not paying your tax on them. Weird one, fingers crossed it doesn't impact the playing side though. Those favours could involve different tax terms..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 It's obviously way too early to speculate on what exactly the bizzies have discovered, who is responsible and what the impact will be but fuck it let's do it anyway. Income tax and NI suggests it's related to the club and payroll rather than Charnley personally, so if he is on the hook then it's reasonable to think that others will be too. You'd also expect an investigation that takes in numerous clubs and countries to take a while to complete, so the immediate threat probably isn't that great (innocent until proven guilty, and all that shite). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 http://images.hellogiggles.com/uploads/2016/08/22083758/janicefriends.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 People would do well do remember that simiilar happened when Souness was here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 If the club are directly involved (doubt they are, just a dickhead at the top using the club) then the club will have too lawyers onto the case. These lawyers will first postpone any court dealing for as long as possible and will argue that it was a case of a rouge individual rather than the club. They will also argue how the club have been coorooirative and if they are to be punished then it should be in the form of a fine and an official warning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 There's no way any sort of punishment would be given to the club without the case going to trial, I can't see anyway that would happen before August. This .. it could be well over a year before any trial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 What the actual fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 People would do well do remember that simiilar happened when Souness was here. That was transfer dealings, not Payroll taxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 People would do well do remember that simiilar happened when Souness was here. That was an investigation over transfers though, wasn't it? That hasn't been confirmed here yet. Or has it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Doesn't really help to speculate as to what it might be at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Can see a transfer ban, where would that leave Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 HMRC must have been looking into this for a while as arrests have been made. So something/someone must have gone to HMRC I reckon folk will have been paying a lot of attention to Ashley for a while and I can imagine the authorities have been going through his finances with a fine tooth comb for some time in an effort to bring him down. Hopefully, the catalyst that will make him sell the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Can see a transfer ban, where would that leave Rafa Hopefully wouldn't kick in till January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 If the club are directly involved (doubt they are, just a dickhead at the top using the club) then the club will have too lawyers onto the case. These lawyers will first postpone any court dealing for as long as possible and will argue that it was a case of a rouge individual rather than the club. They will also argue how the club have been coorooirative and if they are to be punished then it should be in the form of a fine and an official warning. Love the idea of a rouge individual, I bet they're left red-faced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Can see a transfer ban, where would that leave Rafa Nice work you utter cunts 2 fucking days in man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Doesn't really help to speculate as to what it might be at the moment. Well, it's being REPORTED that it's to do with Income and NI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Telegraph suggesting that West Ham are being investigating over transfer activity and the involvement of player agents. Article also states that the investigation could extend to other clubs. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/04/26/newcastle-managing-director-lee-charnley-arrested-st-james-park/ Sounds like this could just be the tip of the iceberg... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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