Lish007 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 If it was dislocated we are looking at him being minimum 6 weeks out. Up to 3 months. If you come back to early, you risk it coming out again. TBH it's a nasty injury because once it's happened, it's more likely to happen again. Lucky he's not a goalkeeper.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Of course he gets hurt after being in prob the best form of his career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lish007 said: If it was dislocated we are looking at him being minimum 6 weeks out. Up to 3 months. If you come back to early, you risk it coming out again. TBH it's a nasty injury because once it's happened, it's more likely to happen again. Lucky he's not a goalkeeper.. This, finger's crossed he makes a full recovery. That'll mean a hefty lay-off and shed loads of physio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 9 hours ago, toontownman said: Real shit news. Hopefully its better than feared but I don't know if that's really a thing with dislocated shoulders lol I've done mine about 10 times. Unless it was manipulated back into place by the physio, he wouldn't be walking off the pitch like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) Looked like it might have been a broken collarbone to me (common injury in cycling because of what you do with your arms when falling from a crash - looked like a similar impact), in which case I'd guess at 6-8 weeks or so. Some come back faster. Edited October 26, 2023 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Any word from Howe on this yet? Dropping like flies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lish007 said: Any word from Howe on this yet? Dropping like flies! Howe said Dortmund it was a bad one. Don’t think any timeline has been given for it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Howe said Dortmund it was a bad one. Don’t think any timeline has been given for it though. These injuries almost always end up with surgery - I am saying mid to late Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Hope this doesn't end up being a setback for him, playing really well at the moment, may be difficult to get that form back following injury as we have already seen with other players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, wyn davies said: Hope this doesn't end up being a setback for him, playing really well at the moment, may be difficult to get that form back following injury as we have already seen with other players Tend to think thats more leg based injuries that impact their running or kicking ability. Schar has shoulder issues and as CB will play in a more physical area of the pitch.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Tend to think thats more leg based injuries that impact their running or kicking ability. Schar has shoulder issues and as CB will play in a more physical area of the pitch.. Schär’s made of strong sexy stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Murphy's certainly no Schar or Danny Williams. ....just an excuse to post one of the best boxing clips really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Howe saying in the post match presser tonight “we fear he’ll need surgery”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 If he has surgery on the shoulder, he’s out for 4 to 6 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Has responded well to treatment and may not need surgery according to Howe this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Has responded well to treatment and may not need surgery according to Howe this morning. Good news. Missing “the juice” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 For reference, Salah was only out for 3 weeks when he dislocated his shoulder. Obviously it's impossible to compare the severity at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Has responded well to treatment and may not need surgery according to Howe this morning. Nailed on to dislocated his shoulder first game back and be out for half a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Shearergol said: For reference, Salah was only out for 3 weeks when he dislocated his shoulder. Obviously it's impossible to compare the severity at this stage. Danger is if you fall back on it - then it’s surgery time Hopefully he has the area protected short term whilst playing ala Dan Burn If he can be back after the break that’s a massive bonus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Popped it back in and sent him on his way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Mikky said: Danger is if you fall back on it - then it’s surgery time Hopefully he has the area protected short term whilst playing ala Dan Burn If he can be back after the break that’s a massive bonus I'm typing this as someone who isn't a professional sportsman, but I've had numerous dislocations (I have a condition, don't ask) to the point that they don't even really hurt anymore. Murphy won't be risked until he's healed, but just because he's done it once doesn't mean he's at any more risk of it happening again if it's treated right (which it will be). He'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 That's pretty great news if he isn't out for a long time. If we could have him and Isak back after the internationals it gives us a lot more breathing room in forward areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: I'm typing this as someone who isn't a professional sportsman, but I've had numerous dislocations (I have a condition, don't ask) to the point that they don't even really hurt anymore. Murphy won't be risked until he's healed, but just because he's done it once doesn't mean he's at any more risk of it happening again if it's treated right (which it will be). He'll be fine. You might have something similar to Ollie Pope (the cricketer) his shoulder seems to pop out a lot too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I seem to remember Steven Taylor dislocating his shoulder, decided not to operate, and on his first match back his shoulder dislocated again after a few minutes and was out for 3-4 months. I guess it's always a case by case basis, but if there is any doubt whether he should or shouldn't do it now, I would hope we opt for the better safe than sorry scenario despite struggling with squad depth atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Conjo said: I seem to remember Steven Taylor dislocating his shoulder, decided not to operate, and on his first match back his shoulder dislocated again after a few minutes and was out for 3-4 months. I guess it's always a case by case basis, but if there is any doubt whether he should or shouldn't do it now, I would hope we opt for the better safe than sorry scenario despite struggling with squad depth atm. Alternatively, we need this fucker now and if he does have a set back we could replace him in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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