Yorkie Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, NE27 said: Was a positive sub yesterday and I never thought I'd say that. As said above, he dared to have a go and that's what it is all about. Too many players lacking confidence to just have a go, or they're just completely burnt out. Dunno why I'm a Murphy fanboy all of a sudden but he's been canny from the bench most of the season imo, particularly since Christmas. Got a hell of a knack of winning possession. I would like to see him start because Miggy is predictable, it's something different and he's deserved it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Yeah I might be being a little unfair on him tbh On a vaguely related note, I sat next to his twin in las iguanas outside wembley after the game and what I can only assume was his parents, proper double take as they are identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, NE27 said: Yeah I might be being a little unfair on him tbh On a vaguely related note, I sat next to his twin in las iguanas outside wembley after the game and what I can only assume was his parents, proper double take as they are identical. Currently at Oxford. Remember when people thought we'd signed the worst of the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 52 minutes ago, NE27 said: Was a positive sub yesterday and I never thought I'd say that. As said above, he dared to have a go and that's what it is all about. Too many players lacking confidence to just have a go, or they're just completely burnt out. I don’t mind him at all as a squad player - he’s more than useful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 He gets played on the right which allows his to go direct and go on the outside, none of our other players really have that opportunity. I'm convinced some team will go back to conventional wingers at some point and start to do well - defenders are so used to defending against everyone trying to cut inside. Guess people like Man City get into the channels and cut back a lot, it's just inside rather than out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I'm pretty much anyone but Miggy now, but there's nee chance Murphy should start over ASM or Gordon out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Jacob Murphy shouldn’t be starting. He’s not the solution to our attacking problems imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 21 hours ago, The Butcher said: I'm pretty much anyone but Miggy now, but there's nee chance Murphy should start over ASM or Gordon out wide. Anyone but Miggy? Anyone but our most hard working top scorer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I like him as a lad but he’s not going to help us. Even that shot he missed in the final, he hit it with no real intention or belief in how he was going to score. If we had two target men he could cross to, maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I thought he did very well when he came on and was our best defender against their counter attacks, he really tried hard to make a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Man Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Likable lad, got some strengths to his game but also some glaring weaknesses, tries his best but sadly is not good enough long term, is still good to have around the squad for the time being. Same comments apply to several of the current squad tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said: Anyone but Miggy? Anyone but our most hard working top scorer? He had a great streak, but now he needs to be dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Dandy Man said: Likable lad, got some strengths to his game but also some glaring weaknesses, tries his best but sadly is not good enough long term, is still good to have around the squad for the time being. Same comments apply to several of the current squad tbh Yeah I’ve always said if he’s number 25 in our 25 man squad then he’ll do for me - cameos here and there - a proper NUFC fan too in the short term keep him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 So many knee jerk folk on here. Miggy has been one of our most important players this season. You cant just drop him based on 5min cameos here or there from Murphy. I like that Howe trusts his team and doesn't chop/change constantly. You earn the jersey, and you lose or win it over many many games. Same for ASM. He comes on for cameo, plays well and everyone wants him in the team. He has average game in final and everyone wants him dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, arnonel said: So many knee jerk folk on here. Miggy has been one of our most important players this season. You cant just drop him based on 5min cameos here or there from Murphy. I like that Howe trusts his team and doesn't chop/change constantly. You earn the jersey, and you lose or win it over many many games. Same for ASM. He comes on for cameo, plays well and everyone wants him in the team. He has average game in final and everyone wants him dropped. Isn't that idea of having a squad though? Almiron was playing well and deserved his place in the team. Now fans are of the opinion that he isn't and think that Gordon or Murphy have shown enough in their cameos to suggest they should be given a run. The same goes for Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Isn't that idea of having a squad though? Almiron was playing well and deserved his place in the team. Now fans are of the opinion that he isn't and think that Gordon or Murphy have shown enough in their cameos to suggest they should be given a run. The same goes for Wilson. Of course. I just dont think we change every game based on a good/bad performance. My point, which may be lost in the waffle, is: Player earns the jersey. Even if he has a few bad games, we stick with him. Then if someone takes over the jersey, we stick with him next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, arnonel said: Of course. I just dont think we change every game based on a good/bad performance. My point, which may be lost in the waffle, is: Player earns the jersey. Even if he has a few bad games, we stick with him. Then if someone takes over the jersey, we stick with him next. That's fair enough and very much seems to be how Howe like to operate. I don't think it's knee-jerk to suggest that Isak deserves a run in the team ahead of Wilson. It's not as clear cut with Almiron, but I do think he could benefit from a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: That's fair enough and very much seems to be how Howe like to operate. I don't think it's knee-jerk to suggest that Isak deserves a run in the team ahead of Wilson. It's not as clear cut with Almiron, but I do think he could benefit from a rest. Agreed. Was going to say the same thing. Counter argument is giving players a rest. Think Miggy deserves one - but shirt should still be his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I don't know if anything was confirmed, but there was talk that Miggy was allowed to leave his international camp during the world cup break due to severe muscle exhaustion wasn't there? It's plausible he needs a prolonged rest to get himself back closer to where he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Wanting an attacking player to be sat down after two months of basically fuck all is hardly "knee jerk" like. Miggy's added little outside his usual graft & endeavour since Christmas, it's reasonable to suggest he needs a rest and the team freshening up. He might well have more impact as a sub against tired legs & earn his place back. Mind, Murphy isn't the answer either. I'd want Gordon in the side for a little run to see what he can offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I’m definitely in the rest Almiron, Wilson and Burn camp. Bring in Isak, Targett and Gordon for a few games. It doesn’t have to be a permanent change but a refresh and to see what a change and a rest brings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 another one with geordie family and a boyhood toon fan. his family must have chuffed to bits when he came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said: Anyone but Miggy? Anyone but our most hard working top scorer? Him and a handful of others seem to be running on empty at the moment. No harm in giving him a rest when he's a wee bit out of form regardless if he's scored the most for us or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Thought Murphy did really well when he come on, has done a few times as a sub this season tbf, but I don't want him starting games. I'd go with either a front 3 of Gordon, Isak and ASM or an attacking 4 in 4-2-3-1 of Gordon, Isak, ASM and Wilson. That's only if Wilson absolutely has to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, HaydnNUFC said: Thought Murphy did really well when he come on, has done a few times as a sub this season tbf, but I don't want him starting games. I'd go with either a front 3 of Gordon, Isak and ASM or an attacking 4 in 4-2-3-1 of Gordon, Isak, ASM and Wilson. That's only if Wilson absolutely has to start. I agree with all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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