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It’s not Maguire’s fault Man Utd signed him to massive wages. Love laughing at him but he shouldn’t just accept a big pay cut to help Man Utd, especially when Southgate starts him no matter what. :lol:

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I can understand both sides, West Ham for paying him what they think he's worth and him for not wanting a pay cut or at least wanting as good a deal as possible. Let's face it, if he wants to play he'll not get the deal he's on unless Man U subsidise it.

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If Man Utd were stupid enough to give a contract with all those incentives, they bear the risk. What will Maguire’s value be in a year after 12 months on the bench? The trade off between lost transfer value and that payoff may be negligible.

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Maguire is well within his rights to stay at Man  Utd. He's entitled to the rest of his contract.

 

However, if he doesn't play, England cannot go into the Euros with him starting. He can't be assured of his England place while sitting on his arse like.

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The Athletic article on why Chelsea believe they are within the limits of FFP is an interesting read. The Premier League’s feet dragging over implementing 5 year caps on contract amortisation might save them for a couple of seasons if they miss out on Europe but the big facet will be the lower wages for young players, more heavily linked to performance incentives, and flogging their young players.

 

Makes the theory of a Hall deal more believable in this context.

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1 minute ago, Nucasol said:

The Athletic article on why Chelsea believe they are within the limits of FFP is an interesting read. The Premier League’s feet dragging over implementing 5 year caps on contract amortisation might save them for a couple of seasons if they miss out on Europe but the big facet will be the lower wages for young players, more heavily linked to performance incentives, and flogging their young players.

 

Makes the theory of a Hall deal more believable in this context.

I mean the proof will be in the pudding when they are assed, another facet is the Covid writes offs they’ve been able to do. Just gaming the system to the max. 
 

and as I mentioned, it’s funny how related party deals were shut down as soon as our takeover was done but Boehly is allowed to game this for 2 years without any action. It just goes to show if you’re in the big 6 you can do what you want, you challenge them and they create rules to stop you. It’s scandalous. 

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20 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I mean the proof will be in the pudding when they are assed, another facet is the Covid writes offs they’ve been able to do. Just gaming the system to the max. 
 

and as I mentioned, it’s funny how related party deals were shut down as soon as our takeover was done but Boehly is allowed to game this for 2 years without any action. It just goes to show if you’re in the big 6 you can do what you want, you challenge them and they create rules to stop you. It’s scandalous. 

Their current losses are £121m, £156m and whatever they potentially book this year. Given losses have to be less than £105m on a rolling 3 year basis, I think they’re gambling on knowing they’ll be under embargo by the PL for January and possibly summer 2024.

 

https://sqaf.club/premier-league-ffp-table/#:~:text=Premier League FFP Rules&text=Clubs are also required to,covered by the club's owners.

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2 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Their current losses are £121m, £156m and whatever they potentially book this year. Given losses have to be less than £105m on a rolling 3 year basis, I think they’re gambling on knowing they’ll be under embargo by the PL for January and possibly summer 2024.

 

https://sqaf.club/premier-league-ffp-table/#:~:text=Premier League FFP Rules&text=Clubs are also required to,covered by the club's owners.

This isn’t correct. We can’t take the losses they book in the accounts as the FFP losses they are different figures are some items are excluded. Also if the punishment is an embargo then this is all well worth it. 

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Just now, r0cafella said:

This isn’t correct. We can’t take the losses they book in the accounts as the FFP losses they are different figures are some items are excluded. Also if the punishment is an embargo then this is all well worth it. 

Cool - I imagine there is some classic accounting smoke and mirrors shit going on. I think with the talent stockpile they have, they’ll go for a striker and keeper along with Olise and Lavia and then take whatever comes their way from the toothless PL by way of embargo. 

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1 minute ago, Nucasol said:

Cool - I imagine there is some classic accounting smoke and mirrors shit going on. I think with the talent stockpile they have, they’ll go for a striker and keeper along with Olise and Lavia and then take whatever comes their way from the toothless PL by way of embargo. 

Yeah, it’s why I’m waiting for the result of the city breaches and these potential breaches in future. It embargo is all they get then the enforcement is a total joke and to be ignored. 

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