r0cafella Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: The Athletic article on why Chelsea believe they are within the limits of FFP is an interesting read. The Premier League’s feet dragging over implementing 5 year caps on contract amortisation might save them for a couple of seasons if they miss out on Europe but the big facet will be the lower wages for young players, more heavily linked to performance incentives, and flogging their young players. Makes the theory of a Hall deal more believable in this context. I mean the proof will be in the pudding when they are assed, another facet is the Covid writes offs they’ve been able to do. Just gaming the system to the max. and as I mentioned, it’s funny how related party deals were shut down as soon as our takeover was done but Boehly is allowed to game this for 2 years without any action. It just goes to show if you’re in the big 6 you can do what you want, you challenge them and they create rules to stop you. It’s scandalous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: You might think differently once you have read his Wikipedia page Oh dear, what a cretin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, McCormick said: Would be amazing if they just scrapped FFP all together leaving Chelsea with a bunch of players on 8 year contracts for no reason. That’s not how that would end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I mean the proof will be in the pudding when they are assed, another facet is the Covid writes offs they’ve been able to do. Just gaming the system to the max. and as I mentioned, it’s funny how related party deals were shut down as soon as our takeover was done but Boehly is allowed to game this for 2 years without any action. It just goes to show if you’re in the big 6 you can do what you want, you challenge them and they create rules to stop you. It’s scandalous. Their current losses are £121m, £156m and whatever they potentially book this year. Given losses have to be less than £105m on a rolling 3 year basis, I think they’re gambling on knowing they’ll be under embargo by the PL for January and possibly summer 2024. https://sqaf.club/premier-league-ffp-table/#:~:text=Premier League FFP Rules&text=Clubs are also required to,covered by the club's owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Max Power plays in Saudi !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Their current losses are £121m, £156m and whatever they potentially book this year. Given losses have to be less than £105m on a rolling 3 year basis, I think they’re gambling on knowing they’ll be under embargo by the PL for January and possibly summer 2024. https://sqaf.club/premier-league-ffp-table/#:~:text=Premier League FFP Rules&text=Clubs are also required to,covered by the club's owners. This isn’t correct. We can’t take the losses they book in the accounts as the FFP losses they are different figures are some items are excluded. Also if the punishment is an embargo then this is all well worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, r0cafella said: This isn’t correct. We can’t take the losses they book in the accounts as the FFP losses they are different figures are some items are excluded. Also if the punishment is an embargo then this is all well worth it. Cool - I imagine there is some classic accounting smoke and mirrors shit going on. I think with the talent stockpile they have, they’ll go for a striker and keeper along with Olise and Lavia and then take whatever comes their way from the toothless PL by way of embargo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: Cool - I imagine there is some classic accounting smoke and mirrors shit going on. I think with the talent stockpile they have, they’ll go for a striker and keeper along with Olise and Lavia and then take whatever comes their way from the toothless PL by way of embargo. Yeah, it’s why I’m waiting for the result of the city breaches and these potential breaches in future. It embargo is all they get then the enforcement is a total joke and to be ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 We need FFP in all life, that old fucker next door to me has just put in artificial grass, there's no way he can afford that on his pension Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ben said: We need FFP in all life, that old fucker next door to me has just put in artificial grass, there's no way he can afford that on his pension It's a loan with an obligation to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Since 1882 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Not totally confident that they are going to have a hit rate on these players their buying to justify their expense anyway, FFP or not FFP breaches. Poch will always be under-pressure the longer they go without a title, and every week they're outside contention let alone the top 4. Really rate Enzo as a signing that will push them on, but foresee them forever to be in transition and always a 'few key signings away' status Man U have been in for years on end. How many windows before they need to tear up and build again - spend another £400M on a forward line as the fortunes spent on Sterling, PEA, Mudryk, Fofana, Jackson, Nkuku haven't brought Chelsea any closer to winning a title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Maguire not going to West Ham anymore. Says he wants to cry at Man Utd instead. Anyone think West Ham could be tempted to go for Lascelles? Not ideal ofcourse but would free up some cash to get a CB and LB in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Tap in merchant reporting Nuno Tavares might be off to forest, given Timbers injury and this lad leaving it’s making Tierney look unlikely imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KaKa Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Wish people would stop freaking out about how much these guys are spending. The more money they have the worse they spend! Ironically I think sticking to FFP has sharpened our focus in the market and almost forced us to do a better job with the players we've brought in. We are dominating player recruitment at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, kocunar said: It's a loan with an obligation to buy. More importantly, because it’s artificial grass the fee is amortised over a hundred years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Don't think I've ever seen a league take hold the way Saudi Arabia have this summer. People will frown on it but the typical football fan over there must be loving life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Don't think I've ever seen a league take hold the way Saudi Arabia have this summer. People will frown on it but the typical football fan over there must be loving life. I'm curious to watch a game just to see how it's playing out, not sure if it's broadcast on any normal channels though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, TRon said: I'm curious to watch a game just to see how it's playing out, not sure if it's broadcast on any normal channels though. Well apparently the temperature was 45C the other night, so it's hard to imagine the level will be very high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, TRon said: I'm curious to watch a game just to see how it's playing out, not sure if it's broadcast on any normal channels though. Dazn have the UK rights so if you want to watch poorly matched boxing matches and sub par Arabian football it’s the obvious choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Dazn have the UK rights so if you want to watch poorly matched boxing matches and sub par Arabian football it’s the obvious choice. Yeah I'm not going to pay another subscription for either of those. You can probably watch both on the I*TV app anyway, I know they cover DAZN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Payet to Vasco de Gama is the sort of transfer I can always get behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Horrendous stuff for the lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) Wow, that’s a blow for the young lad edit: NPW. Was on about Timber sidelined for the season apparently Edited August 16, 2023 by Unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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