Pata Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 It’s not Maguire’s fault Man Utd signed him to massive wages. Love laughing at him but he shouldn’t just accept a big pay cut to help Man Utd, especially when Southgate starts him no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Is the 8million he wants a loyalty bonus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I can understand both sides, West Ham for paying him what they think he's worth and him for not wanting a pay cut or at least wanting as good a deal as possible. Let's face it, if he wants to play he'll not get the deal he's on unless Man U subsidise it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 If Man Utd were stupid enough to give a contract with all those incentives, they bear the risk. What will Maguire’s value be in a year after 12 months on the bench? The trade off between lost transfer value and that payoff may be negligible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Interesting to see if Villa go for anyone to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, 54 said: Fat fee for Villa to invest in someone with actual talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 They’ll go for Tierney. I’m sure Emery was a big fan back in his Arsenal days and he usually goes for his former players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Interesting to see if Villa go for anyone to replace him. Already did, didn’t they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 hours ago, toon25 said: It was inevitable given his attitude and focus. Yeah but it got way worse in Paris for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Maguire is well within his rights to stay at Man Utd. He's entitled to the rest of his contract. However, if he doesn't play, England cannot go into the Euros with him starting. He can't be assured of his England place while sitting on his arse like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Chelsea are just fuckin crackers like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Nucasol said: Might work in our favour for Lewis Hall, or might not if Chelsea cut them a sweetheart loan for him. It'll send football into a recession if Chelsea get another transfer ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Would be amazing if they just scrapped FFP all together leaving Chelsea with a bunch of players on 8 year contracts for no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nucasol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 The Athletic article on why Chelsea believe they are within the limits of FFP is an interesting read. The Premier League’s feet dragging over implementing 5 year caps on contract amortisation might save them for a couple of seasons if they miss out on Europe but the big facet will be the lower wages for young players, more heavily linked to performance incentives, and flogging their young players. Makes the theory of a Hall deal more believable in this context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: The Athletic article on why Chelsea believe they are within the limits of FFP is an interesting read. The Premier League’s feet dragging over implementing 5 year caps on contract amortisation might save them for a couple of seasons if they miss out on Europe but the big facet will be the lower wages for young players, more heavily linked to performance incentives, and flogging their young players. Makes the theory of a Hall deal more believable in this context. I mean the proof will be in the pudding when they are assed, another facet is the Covid writes offs they’ve been able to do. Just gaming the system to the max. and as I mentioned, it’s funny how related party deals were shut down as soon as our takeover was done but Boehly is allowed to game this for 2 years without any action. It just goes to show if you’re in the big 6 you can do what you want, you challenge them and they create rules to stop you. It’s scandalous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: You might think differently once you have read his Wikipedia page Oh dear, what a cretin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, McCormick said: Would be amazing if they just scrapped FFP all together leaving Chelsea with a bunch of players on 8 year contracts for no reason. That’s not how that would end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I mean the proof will be in the pudding when they are assed, another facet is the Covid writes offs they’ve been able to do. Just gaming the system to the max. and as I mentioned, it’s funny how related party deals were shut down as soon as our takeover was done but Boehly is allowed to game this for 2 years without any action. It just goes to show if you’re in the big 6 you can do what you want, you challenge them and they create rules to stop you. It’s scandalous. Their current losses are £121m, £156m and whatever they potentially book this year. Given losses have to be less than £105m on a rolling 3 year basis, I think they’re gambling on knowing they’ll be under embargo by the PL for January and possibly summer 2024. https://sqaf.club/premier-league-ffp-table/#:~:text=Premier League FFP Rules&text=Clubs are also required to,covered by the club's owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Max Power plays in Saudi !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Their current losses are £121m, £156m and whatever they potentially book this year. Given losses have to be less than £105m on a rolling 3 year basis, I think they’re gambling on knowing they’ll be under embargo by the PL for January and possibly summer 2024. https://sqaf.club/premier-league-ffp-table/#:~:text=Premier League FFP Rules&text=Clubs are also required to,covered by the club's owners. This isn’t correct. We can’t take the losses they book in the accounts as the FFP losses they are different figures are some items are excluded. Also if the punishment is an embargo then this is all well worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, r0cafella said: This isn’t correct. We can’t take the losses they book in the accounts as the FFP losses they are different figures are some items are excluded. Also if the punishment is an embargo then this is all well worth it. Cool - I imagine there is some classic accounting smoke and mirrors shit going on. I think with the talent stockpile they have, they’ll go for a striker and keeper along with Olise and Lavia and then take whatever comes their way from the toothless PL by way of embargo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: Cool - I imagine there is some classic accounting smoke and mirrors shit going on. I think with the talent stockpile they have, they’ll go for a striker and keeper along with Olise and Lavia and then take whatever comes their way from the toothless PL by way of embargo. Yeah, it’s why I’m waiting for the result of the city breaches and these potential breaches in future. It embargo is all they get then the enforcement is a total joke and to be ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 We need FFP in all life, that old fucker next door to me has just put in artificial grass, there's no way he can afford that on his pension Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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