joeyt Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Surely the BBC could have found a better photo caption for Burnley's new signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Reminds me of this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Erikse said: Hope Ramsey does well there - we have a buy back clause just in case, mind. I see Archer is off to Sheffield United for £18m also with a buy back clause. Plus Philogene to Hull (which I have to say, I am extremely surprised by, both his departure and it being Hull). Don't believe the 5m being mentioned, though. Either way that's 35m plus of homegrown talent sold in the last few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Quite surprised Philogene is being sold, guess it's the familiar story with pure FFP profit from young players? Weird and unfortunate side of FFP that it encourages teams to sell their young players instead of playing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 FFP working exactly as intended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, brummie said: Hope Ramsey does well there - we have a buy back clause just in case, mind. I see Archer is off to Sheffield United for £18m also with a buy back clause. Plus Philogene to Hull (which I have to say, I am extremely surprised by, both his departure and it being Hull). Don't believe the 5m being mentioned, though. Either way that's 35m plus of homegrown talent sold in the last few weeks. That pure FFP profit I’m really surprised you’ve let Philogene go too, he looked a talent. And to Hull?!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 yeah really surprised and a bit disappointed to see that. he looked really good against us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Big River said: yeah really surprised and a bit disappointed to see that. he looked really good against us It doesn't make any sense, really - unless we are signing someone into his sort of position. Emery said at the end of pre-season he was going to be staying with the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Going to be weird if / when we start seeing transfers like this. No idea how I'd feel about Miley signing for newly promoted Wrexham in 4 years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Prices are so stupid these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, brummie said: It doesn't make any sense, really - unless we are signing someone into his sort of position. Emery said at the end of pre-season he was going to be staying with the first team. Remember reading from Emery’s time at Arsenal he didn’t trust the youth players enough: https://www.justarsenal.com/do-not-be-so-confident-unai-emery-will-promote-youth-this-season/216061/amp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Makes sense their Phil Collins-lookalike manager being an Eze lover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, joeyt said: Makes sense their Phil Collins-lookalike manager being an Eze lover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, joeyt said: Makes sense their Phil Collins-lookalike manager being an Eze lover so rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Grealish 100 million Chukwuemeka 20 million Cameron Archer 18 million Jacob Ramsey 12 million Philogene 5 million Keinan Davis 1 million 160 million of pure profit. We need to sort out academy out asap. That being said - it's a bit sad how FFP almost means clubs are now prioritising the sale of academy players to pay for incomings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 If FFP forces the top clubs to produce a load more saleable assets that can only be a good thing for the longevity of the game, right? If only they were able to tweak it somehow to avoid the seemingly now unreachable pinnacle they have created. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: If FFP forces the top clubs to produce a load more saleable assets that can only be a good thing for the longevity of the game, right? If only they were able to tweak it somehow to avoid the seemingly now unreachable pinnacle they have created. But shouldn't well-run clubs be playing their youngsters rather than selling them? Like, they seem to just be selling a young player because a signing from abroad is better for FFP profit. That feels a bit wrong to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: But shouldn't well-run clubs be playing their youngsters rather than selling them? Like, they seem to just be selling a young player because a signing from abroad is better for FFP profit. That feels a bit wrong to me. It's also that they've now turned to effectively hoovering up talent from local clubs and then pushing them on for pure profit later down the line without ever giving them a chance. It's decimating academies and youth programmes at Football League clubs - those that are left anyway. Edit: Chelsea must rank as one of the fucking worst in this regard. Edited August 23, 2023 by toon25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I do get the point that developing and selling a player isn't all bad though, the player is still going somewhere. Just seems weirder when clubs are buying players that are no better than the ones they're selling, just because one is better for FFP in the short term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Just abolish FFP. The whole thing has been shite from day 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Just abolish FFP. The whole thing has been shite from day 1. It did occur to me that a system that enforces selling a player you don't want to sell for an accounting trick strikes me as something that probably shouldn't be looked upon too favourably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Just abolish FFP. The whole thing has been shite from day 1. Agree. At some point it will probably be ditched anyway when a club decides to sue for restriction on fair trade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Anon said: It did occur to me that a system that enforces selling a player you don't want to sell for an accounting trick strikes me as something that probably shouldn't be looked upon too favourably. It's not designed to do anything good mate, the sole purpose of the FFP system is to make it harder for small clubs to become big clubs. It does that fairly well I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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