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I rate Alvarez pretty highly. Worse players have gone for more money than him, I can think of one that’s still at Man City. Also although he’s seen as a backup, he started 31 league games for them last year, I think unlike Jesus he’ll be a big miss.

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8 hours ago, Ketsbaia said:

Do Man Utd even finish in the top half this season?  :lol:

 

8/1 to finish in the bottom half, I think Ten Hag would go long before Man U were anywhere near the bottom half, however if Southgate is his replacement it might be a canny bet 

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9 hours ago, Ketsbaia said:

Do Man Utd even finish in the top half this season?  :lol:

 

No way. At worst it'll be like last season where they play like dog water but still accumulates enough undeserved 1 goal margin wins and some draws where they'll never be truly out of reach of European places.

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I wish people would stop taking the piss out of man u tbh

2 cups in 2 years. Id give almost anything for that to be us. They'll probably finish above us this year now

 

 

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16 minutes ago, jack j said:

I wish people would stop taking the piss out of man u tbh

2 cups in 2 years. Id give almost anything for that to be us. They'll probably finish above us this year now

 

 

 

Where’s this bottom half crack coming from? With the likes of Garnacho, Mainoo, Fernandes and Martinez alone they’ve got the hallmarks of a top 6 side. Throw in Shaw, Onana, Malacia, Hoijland and the new signings and they’ll be well stocked and have depth to manage Europa and the PL.

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6 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Where’s this bottom half crack coming from? With the likes of Garnacho, Mainoo, Fernandes and Martinez alone they’ve got the hallmarks of a top 6 side. Throw in Shaw, Onana, Malacia, Hoijland and the new signings and they’ll be well stocked and have depth to manage Europa and the PL.

 

Because people are so bitter it makes them say extremely stupid things.

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A lot of data around them last year pointed to a bottom half finish (including the dreaded eye test plenty of the time). Yes they got the points and yes they have won 2 cups but it’s not a hilarious fantasy that they could finish 11th. 
 

Unfortunately I think they’re likely to be in and around the European places again. 

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31 minutes ago, jack j said:

I wish people would stop taking the piss out of man u tbh

2 cups in 2 years. Id give almost anything for that to be us. They'll probably finish above us this year now

 

 

 

I got stick on here for saying they are a good team. Let’s face it our good results against them aside the two games against them when we really needed a result we lost to them both times. I appreciate they’ve a bigger squad but their injuries last season were probably only second to ours.

 

Not convinced on their transfer window so far for the money spent but still 4 weeks to go. 

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40 minutes ago, jack j said:

I wish people would stop taking the piss out of man u tbh

2 cups in 2 years. Id give almost anything for that to be us. They'll probably finish above us this year now

 

 

 

 

It's context, though. They're the biggest club in the country on paper and have spent more than pretty much everyone. 8th was a joke last season. Their FA Cup win was the equivalent of Wigan winning it and going down, you get freak games. 

 

 

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I hate them as much as anyone but a bad season for Man United is finishing 8th and winning a cup , that's literally as bad as it gets for them, they have more money , wage budget , pull etc than anyone in the country barring Man City really.

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4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

It's context, though. They're the biggest club in the country on paper and have spent more than pretty much everyone. 8th was a joke last season. Their FA Cup win was the equivalent of Wigan winning it and going down, you get freak games. 

 

 

 

Aye that's more of my point though. They have been a laughing stock by their standards last couple of seasons yet they've still won 2 cups. They won't be as bad again this season. They will be challenging top 4 I reckon. Can see Liverpool struggling this season more than man u

 

 

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They won't finish near the bottom half but I doubt they have anything to have Man City, Liverpool or Arsenal quaking in their boots.

 

Probably be a shootout between Villa, them & us for the final Champions League spot. We'll know within a few weeks if they've improved or not, as they've largely been awful for 2 years whenever I've watched them, save for the odd decent performance. Every time the pressure seems to be ramping up they seem to go on a decent run. 

 

Fair play for sticking with Ten Hag too. As others have said, 2 trophies in 2 years is a very decent return. I remember there was plenty talk about Arteta getting the chop, Arsenal stuck with him and are reaping the rewards now, albeit after spending an absolute bomb & also being trophyless save for his early FA Cup win.

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10 minutes ago, jack j said:

Aye that's more of my point though. They have been a laughing stock by their standards last couple of seasons yet they've still won 2 cups. They won't be as bad again this season. They will be challenging top 4 I reckon. Can see Liverpool struggling this season more than man u

 

 

 

We will finish above Man Utd AND Liverpool.

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12 minutes ago, jack j said:

Aye that's more of my point though. They have been a laughing stock by their standards last couple of seasons yet they've still won 2 cups. They won't be as bad again this season. They will be challenging top 4 I reckon. Can see Liverpool struggling this season more than man u

 

 

 

I can’t. Liverpool have a proper manager.

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40 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Where’s this bottom half crack coming from? With the likes of Garnacho, Mainoo, Fernandes and Martinez alone they’ve got the hallmarks of a top 6 side. Throw in Shaw, Onana, Malacia, Hoijland and the new signings and they’ll be well stocked and have depth to manage Europa and the PL.

 

I agree. They have, according to many of their fans, the best squad in the Prem, probably one of the best in Europe. They also have their best post war manager in Ten Hag. 

They're very confident going into the season. I'm not familiar with any of their players but their belief is very convincing.

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9 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I mean, if you can't enjoy Man Utd not being the best team in the country anymore then I'm not sure I want to be involved in football. 

 

Could be an age thing. Anyone who didn't experience the 90's may think our hatred of the red clubs is a bit weird.

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3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

Could be an age thing. Anyone who didn't experience the 90's may think our hatred of the red clubs is a bit weird.


They ruined parts of my childhood, and those kids that jumped ship in primary school can suck it up and rot forever.

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8 minutes ago, Lotus said:

 

I agree. They have, according to many of their fans, the best squad in the Prem, probably one of the best in Europe. They also have their best post war manager in Ten Hag. 

They're very confident going into the season. I'm not familiar with any of their players but their belief is very convincing.

 

They're a bit of a myth these days, very much like Arsenal were in Wenger's final years. Big club, yes. Title contenders, absolutely not. I bet it absolutely kills a lot of them when they reflect on where they once were.

 

I don't think I will ever become tired of seeing them bastards whinge.

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