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7 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

 

Think we were linked to him as a potential youth prospect.

There centre back targets I assume we would have been interested in… all signed for City in the same month. 
 

profit and sustainability come to mind. 

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26 minutes ago, MagCA said:

There centre back targets I assume we would have been interested in… all signed for City in the same month. 
 

profit and sustainability come to mind. 

Annoying

 

 

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29 minutes ago, MagCA said:

There centre back targets I assume we would have been interested in… all signed for City in the same month. 
 

profit and sustainability come to mind. 

It does rules there to allow them to keep spending and not us

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7 hours ago, duo said:

It does rules there to allow them to keep spending and not us

 

City had huge sales in the summer and only bought Savinho. 

 

Big sales on academy players like Delap (£15m) and Harwood-Bellis (£20m) plus huge profit on Julian Alvarez (~£70m). 

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1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

City had huge sales in the summer and only bought Savinho. 

 

Big sales on academy players like Delap (£15m) and Harwood-Bellis (£20m) plus huge profit on Julian Alvarez (~£70m). 

That's part of the problem though isn't it. They buy Alvarez, don't actually play him that much and then sell him for triple what they bought him. They then use that money to buy Khusonov and Vitor Reiss, will again sell them in a few years for double or triple.

 

It's why Liverpool fans going on about their net spend is nonsense. It's all a lot easier when you've already got a massive squad filled with valuable players you don't even need.

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Just now, healthyaddiction said:

That's part of the problem though isn't it. They buy Alvarez, don't actually play him that much and then sell him for triple what they bought him. They then use that money to buy Khusonov and Vitor Reiss, will again sell them in a few years for double or triple.

 

It's why Liverpool fans going on about their net spend is nonsense. It's all a lot easier when you've already got a massive squad filled with valuable players you don't even need.

Absolutely and it's an issue with the rules. The historic spend has a compounding affect. It's why if we actually wanted competitive balance we need to index for football inflation and give every club an allowance meaning they can spend as much as the highest spender. 

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22 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

That's part of the problem though isn't it. They buy Alvarez, don't actually play him that much and then sell him for triple what they bought him. They then use that money to buy Khusonov and Vitor Reiss, will again sell them in a few years for double or triple.

 

It's why Liverpool fans going on about their net spend is nonsense. It's all a lot easier when you've already got a massive squad filled with valuable players you don't even need.

 

Alvarez had 100+ apps in two seasons and scored over 30 goals. 

 

It's just good scouting. Nothing else.

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35 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

That's part of the problem though isn't it. They buy Alvarez, don't actually play him that much and then sell him for triple what they bought him. They then use that money to buy Khusonov and Vitor Reiss, will again sell them in a few years for double or triple.

 

It's why Liverpool fans going on about their net spend is nonsense. It's all a lot easier when you've already got a massive squad filled with valuable players you don't even need.

Smacks of Chelsea all over again stockpiling loan players distributed all around the feeder clubs / global sporting club model. Grim for those of us stuck on the ladder whilst they’re dancing on our fingers.

 

One of these days we’ll get fully Richtered.

 

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26 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

He was the new Gabriel Jesus. He played due to injury and that was it.

 

I would disagree. I thought Alvarez was class, and £14m for him was outstanding business.

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18 minutes ago, Anderson said:

 

£22m seems ridiculously lowball, like one of our fake deadline days bids in times gone by. :lol:

It does but signed a 3 year deal in 2023 so only 18 months left maybe a factor?

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1 hour ago, healthyaddiction said:

That's part of the problem though isn't it. They buy Alvarez, don't actually play him that much and then sell him for triple what they bought him. They then use that money to buy Khusonov and Vitor Reiss, will again sell them in a few years for double or triple.

 

It's why Liverpool fans going on about their net spend is nonsense. It's all a lot easier when you've already got a massive squad filled with valuable players you don't even need.


Man City used Alvarez loads, one of the reasons for their drop off. And for all of Man City recent stuff, they have made some seriously bad buys which will come at losses and they’ve decimated their youth team so will need to wait a few years to be able to sell again on same scale.

 

They will be restricted in coming seasons unless they move on O’Riley, McAtee, Savinho for good money. But then their squad is aging so can’t afford to lose them.

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1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

Man City used Alvarez loads, one of the reasons for their drop off. And for all of Man City recent stuff, they have made some seriously bad buys which will come at losses and they’ve decimated their youth team so will need to wait a few years to be able to sell again on same scale.

 

They will be restricted in coming seasons unless they move on O’Riley, McAtee, Savinho for good money. But then their squad is aging so can’t afford to lose them.

 

From their academy alone the last two summer windows:

 

Palmer - £43m

Charles - £10m

Trafford - £15m

Forbs - £12m

Harwood-Bellis - £20m

Delap - £15m

 

That's £115m of pure profit PSR wise. They can spend a fortune off the back of that alone and that's not even including the Alvarez deals plus the sales of Mahrez/Laporte/Cancelo to Saudi. 

 

They are golden for a while yet.

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6 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


Man City used Alvarez loads, one of the reasons for their drop off. And for all of Man City recent stuff, they have made some seriously bad buys which will come at losses and they’ve decimated their youth team so will need to wait a few years to be able to sell again on same scale.

 

They will be restricted in coming seasons unless they move on O’Riley, McAtee, Savinho for good money. But then their squad is aging so can’t afford to lose them.

He played loads last season because of De Bruyne and Haaland's injuries. ALvarez's whole reason for leaving was to be a first team regular and not back up for Haaland.

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59 minutes ago, Anderson said:

 

£22m seems ridiculously lowball, like one of our fake deadline days bids in times gone by. :lol:

 

Aye. Proper cheeky cunt bid [emoji38]

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

From their academy alone the last two summer windows:

 

Palmer - £43m

Charles - £10m

Trafford - £15m

Forbs - £12m

Harwood-Bellis - £20m

Delap - £15m

 

That's £115m of pure profit PSR wise. They can spend a fortune off the back of that alone and that's not even including the Alvarez deals plus the sales of Mahrez/Laporte/Cancelo to Saudi. 

 

They are golden for a while yet.

 

Sure, but the issue is they benefitted from unfettered investment in order to establish this current position - something others now aren't allowed to do. It demonstrates the drawbridge better than anything.

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