nufcjb Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Not worried at all that this guy will walk away now like. Ashley deserves a relegated club and this man should never be part of another relegation again. Once he goes, I couldnt give a fuck about anything anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Is his press conference delayed or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 If that £100mil wasn't on the books at the time of their last offer, then it not being there at the next offer should have no affect. In fact Ashley could probably ask for £100 mil more if it is. jesus, pcp would know the TV money coming in for this season and the value of the assets (players) the club holds so if they spent £80m on players then it wouldn't change much but if he took £80m out reducing the loan and still wanted the same price for the club they'd rightly tell him to f*** off Well given that the next tv deal is expected to be worth even more, then next year the projected income of the club will be higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 When he signed the contract i'd hoped his lawyers had been through the details it with a fine tooth comb to ensure there were certain guarantees about money available. Seemingly not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Benitez says 2 or 3 players are in talks with teams about leaving the club. Wonder who they are? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thomas Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Benitez says 2 or 3 players are in talks with teams about leaving the club. Wonder who they are? Guessing/hoping - Colback, Saivet ... M'bemba and/or Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Benitez says 2 or 3 players are in talks with teams about leaving the club. Wonder who they are? Guessing/hoping - Colback, Saivet ... M'bemba and/or Mitrovic. Colback i genuinely forgot he existed Hopefully its not Merino or Shelvey As for the presser I would actually think higher of Benitez if he layed into the owners in public but he seems too professional for that and maybe has a little hope something can get done. If nobody comes in I hope he lays into Ashley before Palace on sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 If other party just want to pay 250m max, what the fat c*** can do is to milk money from us as much as possible before the takeover. yep like suck the last drop of cash from the clubs coffers and sell when the window closes. Once again though, the £250m valuation previously offered would be based on the fact he didn't bleed the club dry of cash I'd imagine. If he reaps £100m out this summer they're not still going to offer him the same price like. Not really, it's quite complicated but even if the fat c*** milk 100m out this year, the valuation of our club would not go down by that much. Won't be exact but they'll not offer the same money, not a f***ing chance man. I know, but in fact the same can be said on the opposite side. For example, the fat c*** spend 20m on Jorgensen. The valuation of Jorgensen from the buyers view may not be 20m and thus create further differences. I genuinely not surprised we spend nth this money as long as the fat c*** is really willing to sell. jorgensen would be an asset on the books and his value would be in the books determined by amortisation so it's totally different No, you got it wrong. The valuation of the club in a takeover in fact reference very little to the current accounting books. Most of the time, it only relates to: 1. Fixed assets like infranstructures 2. Reputation 3. Revenue generated per year and running cost per year 4. Additional investment cost needed The fat cunt would certainly add that 20m in his asking price because that's the additional cost he incurred during the takeover event. However as you can see from the above, it only affects the last point. If Amanda didn't value him as much, then she would definitely not agree to increase the bidding price for further 20m. That's why during the process of any takeover, all kinds of transfer will be banned. happy to be told i'm wrong, certainly don't claim to be an expert but wouldn't taking £100m out of the club or spending £100m on new players now impact #4? certainly seems like it would to me but then what do i know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Well he's pretty much confirmed that we're done. I can't remember a transfer window that closed on the same night as a game. Does it usually happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Well he's pretty much confirmed that we're done. I can't remember a transfer window that closed on the same night as a game. Does it usually happen? 'I'm confident we can do something' ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Well he's pretty much confirmed that we're done. I can't remember a transfer window that closed on the same night as a game. Does it usually happen? 'I'm confident we can do something' ? translation: we've the time and money to do something but this club is run by fuckwitted, lying bastards so nowt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Well he's pretty much confirmed that we're done. I can't remember a transfer window that closed on the same night as a game. Does it usually happen? Happened Last season. Teams that played midweek games on a Tuesday played on January 31st last year. We play midweek games on Wednesdays so played on February 1st, when Rafa was furious after the QPR home match. Midweek games close to deadline day in January or February usually happen, I wouldn't say playing on deadline day was a regular occurrence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 So we could end up with 3 out including Mitro and no striker incoming. Amazing levels of shitness. Let the club die if he won't release it from his grubby trotters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Confidence that we can do something and confidence that we will do something are entirely different. Unsurprisingly he has opted to say ‘can’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Rafa Feb 1st "This transfer window has been exhausting, frustrating and a complete waste of time: FACT" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I’d love it if he did that. Just walked out for a press conference and read out a catalog of Mike Ashley lies and false promises. Imagine Wendy Taylor trying to PR manage that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 If other party just want to pay 250m max, what the fat c*** can do is to milk money from us as much as possible before the takeover. yep like suck the last drop of cash from the clubs coffers and sell when the window closes. Once again though, the £250m valuation previously offered would be based on the fact he didn't bleed the club dry of cash I'd imagine. If he reaps £100m out this summer they're not still going to offer him the same price like. Not really, it's quite complicated but even if the fat c*** milk 100m out this year, the valuation of our club would not go down by that much. Won't be exact but they'll not offer the same money, not a f***ing chance man. I know, but in fact the same can be said on the opposite side. For example, the fat c*** spend 20m on Jorgensen. The valuation of Jorgensen from the buyers view may not be 20m and thus create further differences. I genuinely not surprised we spend nth this money as long as the fat c*** is really willing to sell. jorgensen would be an asset on the books and his value would be in the books determined by amortisation so it's totally different No, you got it wrong. The valuation of the club in a takeover in fact reference very little to the current accounting books. Most of the time, it only relates to: 1. Fixed assets like infranstructures 2. Reputation 3. Revenue generated per year and running cost per year 4. Additional investment cost needed The fat c*** would certainly add that 20m in his asking price because that's the additional cost he incurred during the takeover event. However as you can see from the above, it only affects the last point. If Amanda didn't value him as much, then she would definitely not agree to increase the bidding price for further 20m. That's why during the process of any takeover, all kinds of transfer will be banned. happy to be told i'm wrong, certainly don't claim to be an expert but wouldn't taking £100m out of the club or spending £100m on new players now impact #4? certainly seems like it would to me but then what do i know There must be impact if the fat cunt did take 100m worth cash out of the club, but right now what he did is stop all further investment (I.e. All transfer funds since last summer) only, and by doing so the club didn't really lose 100m in value, and we continue to stay up without investment the club would save 100m and generate huge profit (and of course would use to pay back his loan). That's the tricky point, and the gamble the fat cunt is taking. Fucking shit. And in relation to 100m on new players, the problem is say the fat cunt did spend 20m on Jorgensen. Very logical to think the fat cunt would increase the asking price to 320m (just say) right? But in buyers view 1. Jorgensen may not worth 20m, or 2. Jorgenson isn't good enough and we still need to buy new strikers, and in such scenario the buyer would not agree to increase the bid as much as 20m. Therefore these transfers would always lead to larger differences in takeover price. To be honest if Amanda did prepare 200m on new transfer, do you think Rafa would not buy a new striker? I think Rafa would just rebuild the team completely except Lascelles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 If other party just want to pay 250m max, what the fat c*** can do is to milk money from us as much as possible before the takeover. yep like suck the last drop of cash from the clubs coffers and sell when the window closes. Once again though, the £250m valuation previously offered would be based on the fact he didn't bleed the club dry of cash I'd imagine. If he reaps £100m out this summer they're not still going to offer him the same price like. Not really, it's quite complicated but even if the fat c*** milk 100m out this year, the valuation of our club would not go down by that much. Won't be exact but they'll not offer the same money, not a f***ing chance man. I know, but in fact the same can be said on the opposite side. For example, the fat c*** spend 20m on Jorgensen. The valuation of Jorgensen from the buyers view may not be 20m and thus create further differences. I genuinely not surprised we spend nth this money as long as the fat c*** is really willing to sell. jorgensen would be an asset on the books and his value would be in the books determined by amortisation so it's totally different No, you got it wrong. The valuation of the club in a takeover in fact reference very little to the current accounting books. Most of the time, it only relates to: 1. Fixed assets like infranstructures 2. Reputation 3. Revenue generated per year and running cost per year 4. Additional investment cost needed The fat c*** would certainly add that 20m in his asking price because that's the additional cost he incurred during the takeover event. However as you can see from the above, it only affects the last point. If Amanda didn't value him as much, then she would definitely not agree to increase the bidding price for further 20m. That's why during the process of any takeover, all kinds of transfer will be banned. happy to be told i'm wrong, certainly don't claim to be an expert but wouldn't taking £100m out of the club or spending £100m on new players now impact #4? certainly seems like it would to me but then what do i know There must be impact if the fat cunt did take 100m worth cash out of the club, but right now what he did is stop all further investment (I.e. All transfer funds since last summer) only, and by doing so the club didn't really lose 100m in value, and we continue to stay up without investment the club would save 100m and generate huge profit (and of course would use to pay back his loan). That's the tricky point, and the gamble the fat cunt is taking. Fucking shit. And in relation to 100m on new players, the problem is say the fat cunt did spend 20m on Jorgensen. Very logical to think the fat cunt would increase the asking price to 320m (just say) right? But in buyers view 1. Jorgensen may not worth 20m, or 2. Jorgenson isn't good enough and we still need to buy new strikers, and in such scenario the buyer would not agree to increase the bid as much as 20m. Therefore these transfers would always lead to larger differences in takeover price. To be honest if Amanda did prepare 200m on new transfer, do you think Rafa would not buy a new striker? I think Rafa would just rebuild the team completely except Lascelles. No, buying Jorgensen wouldn't increase the value of the club as he'd have been bought with money already within the club and that cash would be transferred into an asset. Plain and simples. I'm increasingly of the opinion neither you nor I know what we're taking about, or at least not enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Trying to sign that bloke from the old Star Wars films. Is this what it's come to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I'm at the stage now where I would have a little smile if Rafa packed in today, just ends my misery and confirms relegation. Rafa already taking us down with his shit brand of football. Such a strange decision to advertise your company in your avatar and then go on like this all the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I'm at the stage now where I would have a little smile if Rafa packed in today, just ends my misery and confirms relegation. Rafa already taking us down with his shit brand of football. Such a strange decision to advertise your company in your avatar and then go on like this all the time always wondered about this. Seems a decent whack of people still use him. I reckon I'd rather slit my wrists than sit in a car for an hour with this relentless gunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I wonder if he will have a case for constructive dismissal like Keegan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Benitez says 2 or 3 players are in talks with teams about leaving the club. Wonder who they are? Guessing/hoping - Colback, Saivet ... M'bemba and/or Mitrovic. Colback i genuinely forgot he existed Hopefully its not Merino or Shelvey As for the presser I would actually think higher of Benitez if he layed into the owners in public but he seems too professional for that and maybe has a little hope something can get done. If nobody comes in I hope he lays into Ashley before Palace on sunday I think higher of him because of his professionalism. He always chooses his words very carefully, he's applying pressure on Ashley & co to deliver on what they promised. Obviously if you read between the lines, he thinks they're full of shit, but there'll be plenty of time to say it in a couple of days time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I'm at the stage now where I would have a little smile if Rafa packed in today, just ends my misery and confirms relegation. Rafa already taking us down with his shit brand of football. Such a strange decision to advertise your company in your avatar and then go on like this all the time What the fuck has that got to do with it you fucking idiot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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