marki Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 basicly rafa will be expected to perform on a shoe string budget..even 50mil hard cash dont get alot,but it wont be hard cash as we all know,the squad will end up being weaker as a result Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Hysterical? Behave man - you know who and what we’re dealing with Just that most days we're getting no real developments, yet acting like there has been. Lack of developments is the issue if anything - the words are the same every year reconconfirmed. My hysteria has long passed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 The report said £100m over two seasons. That’s four transfer windows. £25m a window is gonna get you nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I don't even think its the amount thats the issue though. I think Rafa may be basicaly willing to work within a model where he has to raise the money for players from sales, but the problem is we could sell Lascelles for £30m and Rafa could identify an excellent replacement for £20m and £10m for a prospect and the club would veto the £20m player cos of lack of resale value or whatever, or just plain mess up negotiations. I think the club balking at targets is as much an issue as the amount. It seems rafa can give them a list of targets at teh start of the window, the club will make the sales to raise money but then wait all window to even try, veto half the targets as too old or too expensive, and then end up spending only a third of the apparent budget on the third choice players they could get over the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I don't think Ashley has any desire for Rafa to stay, he costs to much money and his ambition for the club does not match Ashley's, Premier league survival is all he wants, and someone like big Sam can give him that Ashley's not that thick, he knows Rafa will build the foundations of the club far stronger than Fat Sam ever could. Allardyce is a short term fix, if anything he relies on buying old farts far more than Rafa. and that is the real problem for Ashley, he doesn't want to spend money on shrinking assets. That said, his own spendthrift attitude is far more important to him than Rafa, and by now he will be fed up of Rafa's demands, so he's probably prepared to lose Rafa if it will give him a manager who'll do what he's told. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 As one of the posts above says, a lot of Rafa's issues aren't financial. Get deals done early in the window. Don't mess about with targets who could go elsewhere. If you know player x is leaving, sell him ASAP, so that resources can be reinvested. If you know player x is likely to leave but hasn't yet gone, don't use it as an excuse not to replace him. Don't haggle over small amounts on key targets. Its a bigger risk NOT signing them. Scrap the "never pay decent wedge for players over 28" rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 The report said £100m over two seasons. That’s four transfer windows. £25m a window is gonna get you nowhere. It will, The Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So who would people go for if Rafa leaves then I’d go.. Number 1 Hasenhuttl Plays our 3421 system would bring through Longstaff and has a Top 10 form record since being in the Premier League. Number 2 Garcia Done very well in the Premier League since joining Watford would the change to his open style suit our players would be my only concern. Number 3 Quique Setien Plays our 3421 system at Real Betis and would progress us as a team with the ball in our formation only concern is he isn’t proven in the Premier League. Wildcard option Arteta He got considered by Arsenal but probably too much of a risk. You’d imagine he has picked up some great training methods since working under Guardiola though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Don't forget, he won't be able to spend money the club doesn't have yet. Believe it comes after the transfer window. That'll mean £11m in the summer, then £25m available by January window. The rest comes after the January window ready for next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So who would people go for if Rafa leaves then I’d go.. Number 1 Hasenhuttl Plays our 3421 system would bring through Longstaff and has a Top 10 form record since being in the Premier League. Number 2 Garcia Done very well in the Premier League since joining Watford would the change to his open style suit our players would be my only concern. Number 3 Quique Setien Plays our 3421 system at Real Betis and would progress us as a team with the ball in our formation only concern is he isn’t proven in the Premier League. Wildcard option Arteta He got considered by Arsenal but probably too much of a risk. You’d imagine he has picked up some great training methods since working under Guardiola though. Yaaaawn... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So who would people go for if Rafa leaves then I’d go.. Number 1 Hasenhuttl Plays our 3421 system would bring through Longstaff and has a Top 10 form record since being in the Premier League. Number 2 Garcia Done very well in the Premier League since joining Watford would the change to his open style suit our players would be my only concern. Number 3 Quique Setien Plays our 3421 system at Real Betis and would progress us as a team with the ball in our formation only concern is he isn’t proven in the Premier League. Wildcard option Arteta He got considered by Arsenal but probably too much of a risk. You’d imagine he has picked up some great training methods since working under Guardiola though. Yaaaawn... What was I suppose to include Eddie Howe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So who would people go for if Rafa leaves then Personally, I couldn't give a fuck. The club will be dead to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So who would people go for if Rafa leaves then Personally, I couldn't give a fuck. The club will be dead to me. Same .................so Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Don't forget, he won't be able to spend money the club doesn't have yet. Believe it comes after the transfer window. That'll mean £11m in the summer, then £25m available by January window. The rest comes after the January window ready for next summer. We seem to hear this same shit every year, meanwhile we manage to find £33m to hand back to Ashley just in case he runs out of slot machine money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So who would people go for if Rafa leaves then Personally, I couldn't give a fuck. The club will be dead to me. Same .................so Pardew Yep. If anything, i'll be hoping for the worst appointment possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 There's plenty of good managers out there who'd come here, so we could easily be alright, but obviously Ashley won't go near that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So who would people go for if Rafa leaves then Personally, I couldn't give a fuck. The club will be dead to me. Same .................so Pardew Yep. If anything, i'll be hoping for the worst appointment possible. Don’t know why anyone would even contemplate Rafa‘s replacement - if he’s gone, then who gives a fuck whatever lackey Ashley scrapes up? Who is the worst “active” available manager? Or the worst semi-retired one? That’s who I hope gets it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Why would Gracia or Hasenhuttl leave their teams to come to us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Why would Gracia or Hasenhuttl leave their teams to come to us? Da facilitees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 More of a challenge coaching less intelligent players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Why would Gracia or Hasenhuttl leave their teams to come to us? The fact Rafa Benitez went from managing Real Madrid to managing us in the same season suggests we have a strange undeniable pull as a club. None of the attractive reasons were ever Mike Ashley related. Our city and our people have shown to be the big pull in the past. Especially in getting Champions League winner Rafa Benitez to not only join but to stay when he could have easily walked. We just have to hope those same reasons which made him stay make him want to stay with us again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So who would people go for if Rafa leaves then I’d go.. Number 1 Hasenhuttl Plays our 3421 system would bring through Longstaff and has a Top 10 form record since being in the Premier League. Number 2 Garcia Done very well in the Premier League since joining Watford would the change to his open style suit our players would be my only concern. Number 3 Quique Setien Plays our 3421 system at Real Betis and would progress us as a team with the ball in our formation only concern is he isn’t proven in the Premier League. Wildcard option Arteta He got considered by Arsenal but probably too much of a risk. You’d imagine he has picked up some great training methods since working under Guardiola though. Yaaaawn... What was I suppose to include Eddie Howe? You could try putting in Gracia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Why would Gracia or Hasenhuttl leave their teams to come to us? Money talks. Rafa is on over four times what Gracia currently gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I have said it a few times, but I would go for Marco Rose at Salzburg if Benitez leaves. I would rather Benitez though, but he will always push the club to do things better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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