xLiaaamx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I think the whole "away from home" thing with Wijnaldum lets him off lightly if anything. He was disgraceful in almost every game from February onwards, home and away, even under Rafa. He got dropped from that team ffs 4 goals in one game, one in a dead rubber. The rest of the season wasn't that great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Can't make wine out of water. Without Rafa we'd be relegated already, a long time ago.. Oh really? Yes. Daft cunt. Reported. Brave lad. Wew, you're hard. I found this way funnier then I should have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Ok, just had a look at the differences in the squads (we still have 13 reigistered players, including those on loan from 2015-16). The differences are (pre January window): GK: Krul vs Sels (though it has still been mainly Elliot and Darlow who played both seasons). DF: Janmaat, Coloccini, Taylor, Mbabu, Williamson vs. Yedlin, Clark, Lejeune, Manquillo, Gamez (I’d have Janmaat). MF: Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Anita, Tiote (RIP), de Jong, Thauvin, Obertan vs. Ritchie, Atsu, Hayden, Shelvey, Murphy, Merino, Diame (forget about cost, on what they offerred I would have Wijinaldum). FW: Cisse, Rivière vs Joselu and Gayle (f*** me... it’s like a punch in the throat vs kick in the nuts). January additions: Townsend, Saivet, Shelvey, and Doumbia vs. Kenedy, Slimani, & Dubravka. (Edit: 2015-16 (Aug-Jan) had 21 points from 23 games (0.91 or 35 for season) ; 2107-18 (Aug-Jan) had 24 points from 25 games (0.96 or 37 for the season). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Considering Shelvey and Saivet hardly played. ((That year, though poor Henri never got his chance)) There's a good chance our January addtions might be better this year. Kenedy's already making a big impact on us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbemba Youre A Womble Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Is anyone else slightly worried that very few players are showing signs of improvement or development under Rafa? Lascelles a side, I can't really think of a player that is performing, or showing any more potential than they did at the start of the season, or throughout last season (obviously factoring in differences in league). Lascelles performance wise has been consistently decent enough, probably the only player I'd say that's acquitted himself since the step up. Unless there is a change in ownership at the top, or a drastic and unprecedented change in direction that Charnley/Ashley are going to take with the club, I'm starting to worry that Rafa won't ever being able to push us up the league - in that he's the type of coach that is able to make a side more than the sum of it's parts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Unless there is a change in ownership he won't be here next season anyway, so not to worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Is anyone else slightly worried that very few players are showing signs of improvement or development under Rafa? Lascelles a side, I can't really think of a player that is performing, or showing any more potential than they did at the start of the season, or throughout last season (obviously factoring in differences in league). Lascelles performance wise has been consistently decent enough, probably the only player I'd say that's acquitted himself since the step up. Unless there is a change in ownership at the top, or a drastic and unprecedented change in direction that Charnley/Ashley are going to take with the club, I'm starting to worry that Rafa won't ever being able to push us up the league - in that he's the type of coach that is able to make a side more than the sum of it's parts. Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 And some had no gorm to give. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Is anyone else slightly worried that very few players are showing signs of improvement or development under Rafa? Lascelles a side, I can't really think of a player that is performing, or showing any more potential than they did at the start of the season, or throughout last season (obviously factoring in differences in league). Lascelles performance wise has been consistently decent enough, probably the only player I'd say that's acquitted himself since the step up. Unless there is a change in ownership at the top, or a drastic and unprecedented change in direction that Charnley/Ashley are going to take with the club, I'm starting to worry that Rafa won't ever being able to push us up the league - in that he's the type of coach that is able to make a side more than the sum of it's parts. Christ. I wonder what it's like living in opposites land Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Is anyone else slightly worried that very few players are showing signs of improvement or development under Rafa? Lascelles a side, I can't really think of a player that is performing, or showing any more potential than they did at the start of the season, or throughout last season (obviously factoring in differences in league). Lascelles performance wise has been consistently decent enough, probably the only player I'd say that's acquitted himself since the step up. Unless there is a change in ownership at the top, or a drastic and unprecedented change in direction that Charnley/Ashley are going to take with the club, I'm starting to worry that Rafa won't ever being able to push us up the league - in that he's the type of coach that is able to make a side more than the sum of it's parts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Is anyone else slightly worried that very few players are showing signs of improvement or development under Rafa? Lascelles a side, I can't really think of a player that is performing, or showing any more potential than they did at the start of the season, or throughout last season (obviously factoring in differences in league). Lascelles performance wise has been consistently decent enough, probably the only player I'd say that's acquitted himself since the step up. Unless there is a change in ownership at the top, or a drastic and unprecedented change in direction that Charnley/Ashley are going to take with the club, I'm starting to worry that Rafa won't ever being able to push us up the league - in that he's the type of coach that is able to make a side more than the sum of it's parts. Holy f***! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 That's a laughable post but it's worryingly typical of people trying to warp the reality of seemingly impossible situation by 'seeing it from another point of view' despite it being abundantly obvious that players aren't improving because they are in part unsuitable for the league, in a neglected squad and under a manager/team hostile ownership that stalls everything. Which bizarrely the post admits is the big factor by the end. We'll never push up the league chiefly because the bloke hamstrung by the club. It's that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Is anyone else slightly worried that very few players are showing signs of improvement or development under Rafa? Lascelles a side, I can't really think of a player that is performing, or showing any more potential than they did at the start of the season, or throughout last season (obviously factoring in differences in league). Lascelles performance wise has been consistently decent enough, probably the only player I'd say that's acquitted himself since the step up. Unless there is a change in ownership at the top, or a drastic and unprecedented change in direction that Charnley/Ashley are going to take with the club, I'm starting to worry that Rafa won't ever being able to push us up the league - in that he's the type of coach that is able to make a side more than the sum of it's parts. The answer is in your first paragraph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Where did all these new wassocks come from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Where did all these new wassocks come from? The woodwork because brexit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I think the majority have improved to varying extents. We played at least 30 minutes of the Palace game without a single upgrade to the team who hobbled to the Championship title less than 12 months ago. Individuals like Lascelles have improved on a personal level, but we've improved as a unit. Rafa's created a solid foundation/identity, it just needs that investment to turn it, first, into a team that can comfortably consolidate it's position in the PL, then it needs its Bellamy/Robert to make it special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 What an utter bell end this bloke is. https://twitter.com/markcurry26/status/961070280453115904 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Pardew was at Newcastle for the benefit of Ashley, Rafa is not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I'm bored of this, I'm going for a Twix. Halfies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I don't think it's helpful to attack someone for proffering a different view, you might not agree with it but to personally insult them for asking whether we could be performing better is not right and more like RAWK or even RTG. Benitez cannot be above healthy challenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I don't think it's helpful to attack someone for proffering a different view, you might not agree with it but to personally insult them for asking whether we could be performing better is not right and more like RAWK or even RTG. Benitez cannot be above healthy challenge Let me know when there is a healthy challenge and not some bizarre ramblings. It's like having doctors talking about medicine then bringing in a homeopathy expert for the sake of "balance". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 What an utter bell end this bloke is. https://twitter.com/markcurry26/status/961070280453115904 The rest of that conversation - Jesus H! Some of our fans will deserve Lawrie Sanchez when he rocks up in the summer (no doubt with his mate Wise as his assistant!)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I don't think it's helpful to attack someone for proffering a different view, you might not agree with it but to personally insult them for asking whether we could be performing better is not right and more like RAWK or even RTG. Benitez cannot be above healthy challenge Let me know when there is a healthy challenge and not some bizarre ramblings. It's like having doctors talking about medicine then bringing in a homeopathy expert for the sake of "balance". Someone questioning whether the players have improved this season are not bizarre ramblings, Jesus if you want to close down anyone that asks a legitimate question, even if you don't agree with it is ridiculous. Just to clarify I wasn't defending the tweet above, but the comment further up the chain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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