sh74 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Depends if he’s using his scouts from when he was at Napoli now or he has to use Newcastle’s scouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just an insight to what he can do with moderate backing. Even sans €39m on Higuain. This would be a valid point and good argument but then you look at some of the utter shit he signed for Liverpool, so its swings and roundabouts really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just an insight to what he can do with moderate backing. Even sans €39m on Higuain. This would be a valid point and good argument but then you look at some of the utter shit he signed for Liverpool, so its swings and roundabouts really Alex Ferguson signed William Prunier, Massimo Taibi, David Bellion, Kleberson, Eric Djemba-Djemba etc etc All managers make some shite signings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Ashley will back him with every penny available............after he's bought HoS, Evans, Debenhams etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just an insight to what he can do with moderate backing. Even sans €39m on Higuain. This would be a valid point and good argument but then you look at some of the utter shit he signed for Liverpool, so its swings and roundabouts really Alex Ferguson signed William Prunier, Massimo Taibi, David Bellion, Kleberson, Eric Djemba-Djemba etc etc All managers make some shite signings Arsene Wenger signed Francis Jeffers, Marouane Chamakh, Richard Wright, Park Chu Young, Sebastien Squillaci, Andre Santos etc SBR signed some shite for us too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Every team in the world has signed shit players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 From what i remember about his time at Liverpool, he did sign some shit (like every manager) but the majority of his big signings were a success. That’s what you should be judged on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Well obviously. I doubt anyone is saying "Aye, he won the Champions League, but his time at the club is marred because he signed Djimi Traore." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 The champions league winning team was mainly houllier's team tbh with a few additions like Luis Garcia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Sir Alex Ferguson signed Gabriel Obertan. And Jordi Cruyff. And David Bellion. Etc, etc, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Sir Alex Ferguson signed Gabriel Obertan. And Jordi Cruyff. And David Bellion. Etc, etc, etc. And Giggs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Well obviously. I doubt anyone is saying "Aye, he won the Champions League, but his time at the club is marred because he signed Djimi Traore." Surely the fact he turned shite like Traore and Kewell into Champions League winners is a credit to Rafa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Rafa himself said, a manager would look for around a 70% hit rate with transfers, or something very similar to that and he's spot on that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Rafa himself said, a manager would look for around a 70% hit rate with transfers, or something very similar to that and he's spot on that like. Doubt the likes of Fergie, Mourinho, Guardiola can even achieve that rate with sub-10m signings these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 The champions league winning team was mainly houllier's team tbh with a few additions like Luis Garcia. Xabi Alonso as well tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Rafa himself said, a manager would look for around a 70% hit rate with transfers, or something very similar to that and he's spot on that like. Doubt the likes of Fergie, Mourinho, Guardiola can even achieve that rate with sub-10m signings these days. Aye, which seems to pass people by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 easier hit rate when you sign genuine proven quality without being handcuffed, seriously, how are people that fucking thick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 17m biggest signing a decade ago, 12m recently in today's market and an approximate average of about 6m per player or loans more recently and for some it's still 'well Rafa chose them on his list' Of course he had to - sign noone out of protest will he? We don't pay the going rate for players, hence we struggle. Simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Well obviously. I doubt anyone is saying "Aye, he won the Champions League, but his time at the club is marred because he signed Djimi Traore." Especially as he didn't sign him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 17m biggest signing a decade ago, 12m recently in today's market and an approximate average of about 6m per player or loans more recently and for some it's still 'well Rafa chose them on his list' Of course he had to - sign noone out of protest will he? We don't pay the going rate for players, hence we struggle. Simple as that. "Rondon was Rafas number one target" completely negating his transfer pot was 12p and a half eaten curly wurly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 When a manager is able to buy his top targets then 70% seems reasonable. If any manager is able to achieve 50% when shopping in the gutter i'd say he's smashing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom2 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 That first season Rafa brought in Alonso and Garcia, two important and great players during '05. Lil Luis was frustrating at times but boy he could be magic, loved him. He also brought Nunez and Josemi. What I came to learn about Rafa was that those first two players were keepers, the other two were cheap and wanted just so he had enough bodies. These are the two he would upgrade next season and so on. He went on like this even through the first years of Hicks and Gillet bringing in some great players like Torres etc. Of our midfield at the time we used to sing about them being the best midfield in the world...'W"e've got Xabi Alonso Momo Sissoko Gerrard and Mascherano, it was hard to see a better. Have to say as well, the Spanish players that Rafa brought to our club had fantastic atitudes, good ethics and always likeable. Then H&G started acting like Ashley, taking money out of the club, telling Rafa he had to sell to buy. We were luckier than you in as much as we had a better squad to drop down with, and also, H&G were looking for refinancing. Having fans all over the world helped in our campaign to get rid of them in as much as whenever they entered a finance establishment one of our fans would see them and let everyone on RAWK know. We fans would then send thousands of emails protesting and block their email accounts up. Usually the bank didn't want that bother. I suppose the well supported protests of many kinds that we staged against H&G came easy to us, as we'd been campaigning for Hillsborough justice for a few decades. I love Klopp as a manager but Rafa Benitez will always be a very special person for me. As a man and manager he was one of the best we've ever had. Good luck with your fight against that greedy fat man and hope you get to keep Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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