Bimpy474 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42296873 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Thing is, it's the first really sticky period during his tenure. He did his damnedest to keep the Sissoko team up, but it was too late. Last season was an absolute battle - a real struggle, but he saw us through. He wasn't rewarded how he should've been, but he's making mistakes himself, no doubt. He deserves the fanbase's support through this period - he's earned it following a successful first season-and-a-bit in the job. Nah. Sack and replace with Bono. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Fucking muppets coming out of the woodwork. Group of lads chanting the 'fat Spanish waiter' ditty outside the East Stand at the end. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 :anguish: Honestly. We're shit and I understand people get frustrated and of course no one is above criticism, but we need to keep supporting this man and his players. Those type of songs would have been inderstable under previous management with players giving up and downing tools, but at the moment this is simply down to a lack of quality. Not sure what overly criticising players management will achieve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Dude, Valencia winning the Barcelona-Real dominated league and Liverpool pulling the Champions League out of their asses were coaching miracles. Tired of this s*** that goes utterly against evidence. Nothing wrong with criticizing Rafa, but some of this is f***ing ridiculous. Some of the defence of him is as bad mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Fucking muppets coming out of the woodwork. Group of lads chanting the 'fat Spanish waiter' ditty outside the East Stand at the end. Pathetic. I now fully advocate violence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Dude, Valencia winning the Barcelona-Real dominated league and Liverpool pulling the Champions League out of their asses were coaching miracles. Tired of this s*** that goes utterly against evidence. Nothing wrong with criticizing Rafa, but some of this is f***ing ridiculous. Some of the defence of him is as bad mind. You've been canny quiet on the whole 442 fetish front lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Fucking muppets coming out of the woodwork. Group of lads chanting the 'fat Spanish waiter' ditty outside the East Stand at the end. Pathetic. Fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 f***ing muppets coming out of the woodwork. Group of lads chanting the 'fat Spanish waiter' ditty outside the East Stand at the end. Pathetic. They were Leicester fans and at least 2 of them ended up on their backsides before they'd managed to walk down as far as the Strawberry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Our fanbase has a fair share of absolute mongs, like. Including a couple on here. Massive WUMs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Dude, Valencia winning the Barcelona-Real dominated league and Liverpool pulling the Champions League out of their asses were coaching miracles. Tired of this s*** that goes utterly against evidence. Nothing wrong with criticizing Rafa, but some of this is f***ing ridiculous. Some of the defence of him is as bad mind. You've been canny quiet on the whole 442 fetish front lately. Different formations for different opponents and even then it's pointless having the right formation with the wrong personnel. Even I went 4-2-3-1 for today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 he's persisting in playing without our best midfielder. his explanations dont really make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 What’s the reasoning of abandoning the 4-2-3-1 formation? To accommodate Gayle? Granted we wasn’t looking like breaking teams down but by going 4-4-2 we no longer have any strengths. Surely it’ll be back to 4-2-3-1 vs Everton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 What’s the reasoning of abandoning the 4-3-1-1 formation? To accommodate Gayle? Granted we wasn’t looking like breaking teams down but by going 4-4-2 we no longer have any strengths. Surely it’ll be back to 4-3-1-1 vs Everton? Hopefully we play with 11 men against Everton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 What’s the reasoning of abandoning the 4-3-1-1 formation? To accommodate Gayle? Granted we wasn’t looking like breaking teams down but by going 4-4-2 we no longer have any strengths. Surely it’ll be back to 4-3-1-1 vs Everton? Hopefully we play with 11 men against Everton Sorry just edited, tired and fed up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Our fanbase has a fair share of absolute mongs, like. Including a couple on here. Massive WUMs. Calm yourself lad, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 They are, just as everyone is entitled to call that opinion horse shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 he's persisting in playing without our best midfielder. his explanations dont really make sense. I don't think he really needs to make any explanations. His tendency to stick with formations and players has usually been proven correct. He's consistently backed Gayle for example, when plenty of fans were fed up, early last season included. Same goes for Lascelles, daft as it seems now. I can remember loads of supporters calling him worse than shit during a bad run in the championship. I think the biggest chance we've got of surviving this season is we have a manager who is clear minded and knows exactly what he wants regardless of what anyone else thinks, including the owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 His worry up front will be about an outlet, which we need with the lack of quality we have and the way we need to play, that can relieve pressure and cause some damage. Gayle has pace but struggles on his own and needs a physical presence close around him - Merino might be able to fill that void as a 10, but it's always going to be whether he can provide the right support and speed. Joselu can't really do much on his own so isn't a lone forward, he also gets bullied. Mitrovic obviously isn't going to start. With 4-3-3, I'd feel comfortable in us for the defensive and middle of the pitch. Having Shelvey in there with a slightly more free role should allow us to get the ball to the forwards faster, it's just a case of whether we have enough up top for the ball to not come straight back... I'd be very worried about Gayle being isolated. Outside of that, 4-2-3-1 with Merino as a 10 and Gayle/Joselu depending on the style of game. Absolutely screwed over the by the summer shitshow. Some moderate investment would've seen us easily, easily comfortable. Shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Got massive sympathy with the lack of support in the transfer market but the players he has signed are pretty poor but again would have been his 5th or 6th choices surely. However I will say his team selection and tactics these last couple of months have certainly been open to question. He is not a god and currently he is underperforming. Despite that some may think he can do no wrong; he can and he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 he's persisting in playing without our best midfielder. his explanations dont really make sense. I don't think he really needs to make any explanations. His tendency to stick with formations and players has usually been proven correct. He's consistently backed Gayle for example, when plenty of fans were fed up, early last season included. Same goes for Lascelles, daft as it seems now. I can remember loads of supporters calling him worse than s*** during a bad run in the championship. I think the biggest chance we've got of surviving this season is we have a manager who is clear minded and knows exactly what he wants regardless of what anyone else thinks, including the owner. unfortunately his "usually correct" tactics/selection have not worked in the last 7 games. still the man for the job but he needs to go back to basics. pack the midfield and press high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Top work, Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Burnley have better players than we do in core areas I'm afraid. Heaton, Pope, Defour, Brady, Cork even the likes of Jeff Hendrick. Chris Wood, Jonathan Walters, Sam Vokes, Ben Mee, James Tarkovski, Charlie Taylor - the list goes on. Exactly. They are an established PL side with a solid squad, we've just come up from the Championship, spent next to nowt in the Summer and suddenly we have better players than them. Some people need to get a grip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Top work, Rafa If serious, you're an absolute rectangle. Thought better of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Don't get why we went 442, then when it's clearly not working straight back to 4231 which was working We lost today with 442, lost against Watford 442, Man Utd was 442 and the Bournemouth loss was 442 Beat Palace with Ayoze behind Joselu, same when we beat Stoke, Swansea and West Ham. Ayoze was behind Joselu against Liverpool which we drew Since we last won a game (correct me if I'm wrong) but the only time we started 4231 Ayoze behind Joselu was West Brom and we drew. Lost all the others with 442 (and the back 3/5/whatever at Chelsea) edit: lost at Burnley with the 4231 didnt we, so 1 loss with that since we won a game Sure the football was abysmal to watch with 4231 but I'd rather have results at this point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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