Lush Vlad Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 If Howe carries on as he is and doesn’t get a tune out of these players between now and the end of the season. Then Rafa might be offered the job to get us back up. Only way I see him coming back here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: What did he say? Rafa always causes problems wherever he goes, he likes to get the fans to turn against the board, he always has an agenda, loves the drama and never thinks he’s in the wrong. Granted it was never a good fit at Everton, but what an ass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Don Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, triggs said: Wonder if Everton would go for Rooney. Won again today The prostitute lover is doing quite a good job,considering what's going on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Lush Vlad said: If Howe carries on as he is and doesn’t get a tune out of these players between now and the end of the season. Then Rafa might be offered the job to get us back up. Only way I see him coming back here. Only way he should imo. Knew this would happen on here. As soon as a bad run comes along then it'll be 'ohhh get Rafa back', even though he's not been great in management since he was at us ~3 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: Only way he should imo. Knew this would happen on here. As soon as a bad run comes along then it'll be 'ohhh get Rafa back', even though he's not been great in management since he was at us ~3 years ago. It would have been nice to have a good run first tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Billy Pilgrim said: It would have been nice to have a good run first tbf Take a step back and look at the games in isolation. Otherwise we really are the deluded bell ends who turn on managers that the media portray us to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: Take a step back and look at the games in isolation. Otherwise we really are the deluded bell ends who turn on managers that the media portray us to be. You can see from space that the results, individually, have been shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Billy Pilgrim said: You can see from space that the results, individually, have been shit. Agree. Especially today and Cambridge. But look at the other games in isolation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: Only way he should imo. Knew this would happen on here. As soon as a bad run comes along then it'll be 'ohhh get Rafa back', even though he's not been great in management since he was at us ~3 years ago. Bad run??? We have won 1 game under him, can’t defend for toffee, can’t hold onto a lead and look like conceding every time the team we play attacks us. At least under Rafa we were well drilled and organised and didn’t look like conceding goals at every turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, nufcnick said: Bad run??? We have won 1 game under him, can’t defend for toffee, can’t hold onto a lead and look like conceding every time the team we play attacks us. At least under Rafa we were well drilled and organised and didn’t look like conceding goals at every turn. We've had 2 and half years of (non existent) Bruce coaching. A guy who sold Lejeune to give Clark more playing time. The inability to hold leads has been a staple since June 2020, its not new nor is it something that can be fixed in 10 games; 3 of which were against the two Manchester clubs and Liverpool. Now I'm not defending Howe for these results btw, just trying to lend some perspective before people go "oOoOh GeT rAfA bAcK". Given how he's been doing with a squad far ahead of ours, I'm not so sure. Still love the bloke btw, not trying to rewrite history here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: We've had 2 and half years of (non existent) Bruce coaching. A guy who sold Lejeune to give Clark more playing time. The inability to hold leads has been a staple since June 2020, its not new nor is it something that can be fixed in 10 games; 3 of which were against the two Manchester clubs and Liverpool. Now I'm not defending Howe for these results btw, just trying to lend some perspective before people go "oOoOh GeT rAfA bAcK". Given how he's been doing with a squad far ahead of ours, I'm not so sure. Still love the bloke btw, not trying to rewrite history here. Howe has been insistent on playing Clark too like. Fairly convinced he’s only out of the team at the moment because he’s got Covid. Edited January 15, 2022 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Easy to forget that we were poor under Rafa in his last season until he had a fit, competent front 3 to work with. Don't think he'd make much difference now considering what's available. He'd also absolutely hate Maxi. Not sure where he goes from here, tbh. He does feel a bit finished? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 anyone wanting rafa back is an unhinged lunatic and it's not up for discussion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Howe has been insistent on playing Clark too like. Fairly convinced he’s only out of the team at the moment because he’s got Covid. He's played Clark in 3 out of his 10 games. Only reason that's been amplified is because of the errors he's made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: He's played Clark in 3 out of his 10 games. Only reason that's been amplified is because of the errors he's made. Sounds much worse when you say he’s played Clark in 3 out of the 5 games he’s been available for. Edited January 15, 2022 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Sounds much worse when you say he’s played Clark in 3 out of the 5 games he’s been available for. 6. Not that that's saying much. Benitez continues to play Rondon at Everton. All managers at Man Utd play McFred seemingly. Probably because there's no one else? Especially for us as Bruce was happy to sell Lejeune without replacing him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: We've had 2 and half years of (non existent) Bruce coaching. A guy who sold Lejeune to give Clark more playing time. The inability to hold leads has been a staple since June 2020, its not new nor is it something that can be fixed in 10 games; 3 of which were against the two Manchester clubs and Liverpool. Now I'm not defending Howe for these results btw, just trying to lend some perspective before people go "oOoOh GeT rAfA bAcK". Given how he's been doing with a squad far ahead of ours, I'm not so sure. Still love the bloke btw, not trying to rewrite history here. If your a bad team you concentrate on defending first, keeping things tight and then nick 1 nil wins, this is something Howe is incapable of, what did he say to Mandy, “ the team is under performing and should be higher in the table” well he clearly also can’t get a tune of of them because has had 10 games now and has 1 win in those 10 games he’s played Norwich, Brentford, Burnley, Watford, Cambridge at home and Leicester and who we beat last season away, those games you should be coming away with 12 points minimum and we have taken 6, granted we got a point from ManU that was unexpected but again a game we should have won and failed to defend properly. anyway it’s immaterial any way because Mandy’s not going to sack him, so it’s just speculation about Rafa . Edited January 15, 2022 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, thomas said: anyone wanting rafa back is an unhinged lunatic and it's not up for discussion Why do people use such extreme language at times for simply having a different opinion in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Our players wouldn't want Rafa back as they'll end up crying every day. Can't believe this is being brought up, btw. Just get over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Dinho lad said: Our players wouldn't want Rafa back as they'll end up crying every day. Can't believe this is being brought up, btw. Just get over it. Well, if the players wouldn't like it we definitely shouldn't do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, hakka said: Why do people use such extreme language at times for simply having a different opinion in football. Opinions are not inherently valuable or deserve respect. If I have the opinion Chris Wood is better than Shearer I should receive pushback for having a dysfunctional brain. In a similar manner, yearning for the return of rafa is not an inspirational viewpoint and I refuse to entertain it as meaningful. I love the man for what he did here but a return would be horrible. Also I'm usually hyperbolic for the sake of levity, sometimes that doesn't come across. Edited January 15, 2022 by thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, hakka said: Why do people use such extreme language at times for simply having a different opinion in football. Welcome to the Internet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, thomas said: Opinions are not inherently valuable or deserve respect. If I have the opinion Chris Wood is better than Shearer I should receive pushback for having a dysfunctional brain. In a similar manner, yearning for the return of rafa is not an inspirational viewpoint and I refuse to entertain it as meaningful. I love the man for what he did here but it's a horrible prospect. It's about respecting other people actually. You don't have to claim they are extremely mentally unwell for having a different opinion on Rafa than you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, thomas said: Opinions are not inherently valuable or deserve respect. If I have the opinion Chris Wood is better than Shearer I should receive pushback for having a dysfunctional brain. In a similar manner, yearning for the return of rafa is not an inspirational viewpoint and I refuse to entertain it as meaningful. I love the man for what he did here but a return would be horrible. Also I'm usually hyperbolic for the sake of levity, sometimes that doesn't come across. Levity did come across there tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, hakka said: Why do people use such extreme language at times for simply having a different opinion in football. Shut up you mentalist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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