DMLeazesender Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Barnes23 said: Not sure how anyone could look at the circumstances of Howe's appointment and believe it was part of some long-term masterplan, and not just a new ownership (with negligible experience of the game) selecting what they believed to be the best managerial candidate they were able to attract in incredibly hurried and difficult circumstances. Also not sure how anyone could watch our games since Howe's arrival and feel he is automatically deserving of a place in our long-term plan irrespective of results in the coming weeks. Also, who gives a fuck what the media say? Stop caring about them, they don't care about you. So are you assuming our owners don't have a plan? They have consistently referred to the long term vision or project. At the time of the takeover managers weren't exactly lining up to join us. It was Howe or Emery and Emery kept gobbing off to the press while Howe kept a dignified silence. It seems like your suggesting we ditch Howe after a few weeks, a manager with proven PL experience of keeping shit teams in the league. I also think the football has improved since Howes arrival, we just haven't gotten the results. A lot of people seem to give a fuck what the media says, they provide the international and world wide perspective of Newcastle United and half the posts on here are commenting on the media. It's just my opinion, but despite the results I still feel we are on the right track and going forward the future has never looked so good for NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Come back home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Heron said: Times change, he might be ready for that now? Would it be a terrible move? Like there's nothing to suggest he couldn't do it. At worst we'd have a solid high press that doesn't leak goals, it'd be better than a high press that cannot keep a clean sheet... It just feels horrendously knee-jerk. Sacked by Everton then immediately all like "Alfred, prepare the batmobile. The Toons need me and they need me now!" He probably needs a bit of time away from the game for the good of his health more than anything. It can't have been a fun couple of years for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I love Rafa. But I think coming here is a poisoned chalice for him. There’s a lot of people in our fan base who have been corrupted by the media propaganda about Bruce doing a better job than him and the pressure on him to get a tune out of this bucket of losers would be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: How, we need someone in an advisory role of some sort. I think that was made clear when we paid £25m for Chris Wood. At the minute I think it's basically Eddie Howe, Jason Tindall, and some no mark scout? Aye of course, but we need a DoF, not a former and much loved manager in an unfamiliar role to undermine the existing manager... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Heron said: I don't understand how Benitez isn't a director of football to be honest? He understands and has plans for a football club that go well beyond managing a squad of players. He'd also be able to provide defensive guidance to Howe and the team, and has accolades and ability to manage those within our squad and beyond, no matter how big they think they are. You could argue any DoF undermines Howe at this stage too... He’s no DoF. His huge strength is organising a team of players to play better than the sum of their parts but improving them individually and exercising control of them to the point football is condensed to a game of mistakes where his players make the least. That’s how he wins matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, mighty__mag said: Nutters on twitter, bring him in as DOF. Aye, undermine Howe by bringing back your ex gaffer to tell him what to do. Like bringing McLaren back over Rafa, Rafa would be wasted as a DoF, it not genuinely poor in the role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 It's not the squad Rafa had anymore. There's no Pèrez, no Lejuene for starters. There's not even Ki, who was massive for us in just keeping hold of the ball, and then no Rondon. 4 players right down the spine, 1 we refused to fork out for and 3 we just decided to sell. He didn't want Joelinton, he would hate ASM, he doesn't like Murphy. He might like Wilson, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, NEEJ said: It just feels horrendously knee-jerk. Sacked by Everton then immediately all like "Alfred, prepare the batmobile. The Toons need me and they need me now!" He probably needs a bit of time away from the game for the good of his health more than anything. It can't have been a fun couple of years for him. Agree with this. I thought this before Howe was even announced tbh though. I think it'd be a good combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Don't know if been posted yet but this is from their forums. Pretty alarming if true: Just looking back objectively now at his time here, based on facts of what’s happened: - came in, insisted he’d done a full squad audit and knew what Everton fans wanted, talked a lot about running and effort - definitely improved the fitness of the side - brought in Gray which is an excellent signing for that price. Townsend on a free is very meh and he’s a Benitez player - he’ll be useful for whoever else comes in because he’s always committed. Begovic is what he is, Lonergan for training needs - did well first few games in terms of results, team looked fitter but wasn’t really organised bar the Brighton game. There seemed no real plan to how we played but the intensity was there at least - poor deadline day, demanded we got Rondon and we got Rondon - injuries hit, results start to tail off, matching the poor level of performance - James Rodriguez left the club even though Everton couldn’t replace him - Bit of a bounce around that United game, the last good display. I credit Benitez that day, looked like he had got something to build on even with limited options (DCL and Rich out), but Utd were awful - Went very, very rubbish very quickly. He tried to replace Doucoure with Tom Davies. His insistence on only ever playing 2 in midfield became apparent. By the wolves game, it was clear he was stuck in a time football forgot - worst derby home defeat in 40 years, fans protest, but try to be too clever and insist that it’s not the manager’s fault. This results in DoF going and the manager gets more power - half-decent performance v Arsenal, but relied on moment of magic and could easily have lost. Overshadows it by ditching Digne - hapless v Palace, he changes it up after 20 mins and thinks Gomes can play second striker in his absurd 4411 - resilient display v Chelsea but very lucky to not have been 3-0 down by 20 mins in. Decides same formation must be used in every games - completely loses his head over Digne, alienates one of the best players then inexplicably puts him on the bench v Brighton, even though he was never gonna bring him on. Seemingly gets annoyed by fans clapping Digne when he warms up, when Everton are 2-0 down at home after 15 mins - Sells said player having already spent more than what we got for him on two very inexperienced players, one of whom is thrown straight into a struggling side - leaves by suffering a defeat which leads Everton to become the only side to lose to all the newly promoted teams - gets fat compo packaged club’s now a complete mess. No DoF, owner’s a lunatic, Bill’s crying and the fans hate each other and the players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 They’re an arrogant bunch on that Everton forum like. They also had a threat on their made on 28th November to discuss their next manager. But, NUFC fans were so so harsh to Bruce and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Amir_9 said: Don't know if been posted yet but this is from their forums. Pretty alarming if true: Just looking back objectively now at his time here, based on facts of what’s happened: - came in, insisted he’d done a full squad audit and knew what Everton fans wanted, talked a lot about running and effort - definitely improved the fitness of the side - brought in Gray which is an excellent signing for that price. Townsend on a free is very meh and he’s a Benitez player - he’ll be useful for whoever else comes in because he’s always committed. Begovic is what he is, Lonergan for training needs - did well first few games in terms of results, team looked fitter but wasn’t really organised bar the Brighton game. There seemed no real plan to how we played but the intensity was there at least - poor deadline day, demanded we got Rondon and we got Rondon - injuries hit, results start to tail off, matching the poor level of performance - James Rodriguez left the club even though Everton couldn’t replace him - Bit of a bounce around that United game, the last good display. I credit Benitez that day, looked like he had got something to build on even with limited options (DCL and Rich out), but Utd were awful - Went very, very rubbish very quickly. He tried to replace Doucoure with Tom Davies. His insistence on only ever playing 2 in midfield became apparent. By the wolves game, it was clear he was stuck in a time football forgot - worst derby home defeat in 40 years, fans protest, but try to be too clever and insist that it’s not the manager’s fault. This results in DoF going and the manager gets more power - half-decent performance v Arsenal, but relied on moment of magic and could easily have lost. Overshadows it by ditching Digne - hapless v Palace, he changes it up after 20 mins and thinks Gomes can play second striker in his absurd 4411 - resilient display v Chelsea but very lucky to not have been 3-0 down by 20 mins in. Decides same formation must be used in every games - completely loses his head over Digne, alienates one of the best players then inexplicably puts him on the bench v Brighton, even though he was never gonna bring him on. Seemingly gets annoyed by fans clapping Digne when he warms up, when Everton are 2-0 down at home after 15 mins - Sells said player having already spent more than what we got for him on two very inexperienced players, one of whom is thrown straight into a struggling side - leaves by suffering a defeat which leads Everton to become the only side to lose to all the newly promoted teams - gets fat compo packaged club’s now a complete mess. No DoF, owner’s a lunatic, Bill’s crying and the fans hate each other and the players Can't argue with any of that. He'd be a good manager for a mid-table northern club, or say Sheffield Utd, a club with history which would appreciate restoration on a budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Can't wait to see who they get in as replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, DMLeazesender said: Can't wait to see who they get in as replacement. Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 PLEEEAAASE!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Stuck a poll in for fun. Hopefully covers all bases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Bring him home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 His ship has sailed. He should never have taken the Everton job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-Cheshire-Toon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On another note - do you think they'll get a replacement in - in time for them to make any purchases, as if not, then they'll have to stick with the squad they have, which could benefit us in the long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, DMLeazesender said: Can't wait to see who they get in as replacement. If it's Rooney who is favourite, then I think Farhad has had enough of throwing money around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Could they bring him in as a consultant to oversee the new training ground/base of operations at the club? Keep him close, then if things with Howe don't work out we can bring him straight back in. ... though that sad, would any involvement undermine any potential success for Howe? Edited January 16, 2022 by Armchair Pundit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Moshiri is just a rich Persian Steve Gibson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Not gonna go on about it but I'd have him in tomorrow. Better chance of keeping us up than Howe and better chance of getting us promoted if we go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I’d have him upstairs in a heartbeat (not sexually) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTL Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, RS said: I’d have him upstairs in a heartbeat (not sexually) 😄😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now