themanupstairs Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Lawro's prediction table is funny, obviously doesn't like both clubs, has Stoke bottom with zero wins and us third bottom with zero wins. Love these experts, where would we be without them. http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41243874 Your not always Mr positive when it come to us. Would expect you would have predicted us to be around the bottom end. I was very positive prior to the start of the season, then went completely the other way after Spuds and Huddersfield. If I'm being honest, I'm probably not far off Lawro, I would have predicted us on 3 points right now, I thought we would get draws at Huddersfield and against West Ham and Stoke (perhaps sneaking a victory in one of those two), with losses at Swansea and against Spuds. We are way better than my view. It's a great start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 none of the the highlights (motd/sky/nufc.co.uk) showed that first half incident of our player getting wiped out by an off the ground challenge that went straight through him. was in the right wing position. may just have seemed worse than it looked from the otherside of the ground but looked a dirty challenge at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 none of the the highlights (motd/sky/nufc.co.uk) showed that first half incident of our player getting wiped out by an off the ground challenge that went straight through him. was in the right wing position. may just have seemed worse than it looked from the otherside of the ground but looked a dirty challenge at the time. Aye. Was Wimmer on Yedlin. Looked nasty from my seat as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Our set pieces have been superb this season in general, especially corners. Nearly all of them seem to at least land in dangerous position. Ah, for the days of loading it up to Big Mike at the back post... Agreed. We look so much better now. We carry a threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I was pretty annoyed by that fact (the lack of any analysis of that dangerous tackle on Yedlin) but, also MotD didn't even take a second look at that that penalty claim on the tackle on Atsu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Lawro on Everton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 It's not surprising given the start they've had like. I reckon they'll start picking up now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Just that Lawro is so obviously biased and managed to accidently get it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Hughes is such a salty bell end, "respect the talent we've got". f*** right off man. What the fuck is that supposed to mean anyway? also he's low-key admitting he's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 We set up to outplay them, which we did. Cry me a river Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 On their talent, i have said this before but a lot of them are nowhere near as talented as perceived. Just because they have a bunch of young talents which failed to become anything doesn't mean they have a super talented team. I don't feel like any of them are well beyond Stoke, even Shaqiri has done fuck all with his career since joining Bayern and was an utter failure at Inter. On the flip side because we have players who were not massively hyped as young players doesn't mean they are inherently worse either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 They have some good players and some weaknesses, we just outdid them on the day. Mainly due to having a much better manager probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 They have some good players and some weaknesses, we just outdid them on the day. Mainly due to having a much better manager probably. While that's all true, i think the perception is that the gap is bigger than it actually is. Basically ignoring the managers i don't think the gap in talent is as big as people like Hughes would like to believe. It's the same with West Ham, sure Bilic is doing a shit job i get the feeling people overhype the talent he has at his disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 They have one of those awkwardly assembled squad's that usually comes from multiple managers and multiple directors of football in a short space of time and an unhealthy fondness for transfer deadline day, like QPR's last stint in the premier league, West Ham, West Brom or Fulham. Somehow, possibly impressively, Mark Hughes has managed this all on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Well it is a horribly built squad, that i definitely agree with. When you look at us, we have a solid midfield pairing with a solid back 4 behind it, pace and guile on the wings and work rate upfront. There's a lot of things we lack but we are definitely balanced, something the like of Stoke can't really say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Stoke just seem to buy a lot of attacking players who have fallen out of favour at a bigger club. Shaqiri, Jese, Bojan, Arnautovic and probably some others too. They've got loads of players that can play as a striker in Jese, Diouf, Chupo Moting and Berahino yet they're still resorting to Peter Crouch and looked more dangerous when he came on than most of the match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's actually quite funny tbh, what's the point of buying loads of attacking midfielders if the CMs you buy are utterly garbage. As critical as i am of the likes of Shaqiri, Jese, Bojan etc etc, how stupid can you be to have CMs like Fletcher or Whelan behind them. Utterly pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I disagree. It's more down to the fact that good CM is scarce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 They had a good one in NZonzi but then they got Imbula who was terrible. Was reading their forum and a lot of them were saying how much they miss Geoff Cameron which says a lot about Stoke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Mikky M sounds like a really bad lead singer for a J-Pop band. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Well it is a horribly built squad, that i definitely agree with. When you look at us, we have a solid midfield pairing with a solid back 4 behind it, pace and guile on the wings and work rate upfront. There's a lot of things we lack but we are definitely balanced, something the like of Stoke can't really say. Disagree that they're unbalanced like. They've got a great keeper, a solid back three, Pieters is solid, Johnson would be a better fit at RWB than Diouf mind. A solid enough midfield with a cracking playmaker, they lack a top striker mind. Easy to forget these beat Arsenal, were unlucky not to beat Man U who are trouncing everyone at the moment, and should have won at WBA who are giving bugger all away before we played them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 As good as anything outside the top 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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