Toonjam88 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He basically seemed to think the PCP offer was low, while Ashley's valuation was high, but that it would be a great investment at around 300-320 as all premier league clubs will be increasing in value in the coming years. Fair enough. He is still a twat though. I would agree that surely £300 million is a decent price to pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 IF we weren't threatened with relegation and had no possible HMRC case looming I'd say the club would probably be worth £300m or so, but fact is those problems are there. A new TV deal isn't going to automatically increase the clubs value significantly either IMO. Also Simon Jordan's a piece of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 The world is paying the price for giving these orange Americans with sky-high confidence and gutter-low knowledge any amount of power and time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 There’s not a hope in hell that Ashley would accept 250M and Staveley must know this. If a sale isn’t agreed and that is the final offer then the whole thing has been a complete waste of time. Given the time and money invested in this process so far I can’t believe that Staveley will refuse to increase PCP’s offer. Seems most people think (based on bollocks all) that 250M is too low and that 300M would represent a fair price. Personally, I don’t think Ashley would want to accept 300M but it may just do the trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 There’s not a hope in hell that Ashley would accept 250M and Staveley must know this. If a sale isn’t agreed and that is the final offer then the whole thing has been a complete waste of time. Given the time and money invested in this process so far I can’t believe that Staveley will refuse to increase PCP’s offer. Seems most people think (based on bollocks all) that 250M is too low and that 300M would represent a fair price. Personally, I don’t think Ashley would want to accept 300M but it may just do the trick. I think Ashley must be taking the offer seriously after all the fuck ups he's made with the club. Yet again we are looking like being in a relegation fight without big spending. This could be his best chance to get his money out for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 There’s not a hope in hell that Ashley would accept 250M and Staveley must know this. If a sale isn’t agreed and that is the final offer then the whole thing has been a complete waste of time. Given the time and money invested in this process so far I can’t believe that Staveley will refuse to increase PCP’s offer. Seems most people think (based on bollocks all) that 250M is too low and that 300M would represent a fair price. Personally, I don’t think Ashley would want to accept 300M but it may just do the trick. I think Ashley must be taking the offer seriously after all the f*** ups he's made with the club. Yet again we are looking like being in a relegation fight without big spending. This could be his best chance to get his money out for years. Can't see him getting as good a chance to make a profit. If he doesn't take it Ralfa leaves, many fans do and another relegation will not be like the previous two as there were little alternatives back then. This time we have a potential new owner and Ashley can get out with a profit. If this didn't come off NUFC will be unrecognizable in 18months . Even below the early 80s which was the lowest on my lifetime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 relegation will not be like the previous two This is a big problem. Most fans will recognise this but I fear that Ashley thinks that coming straight back up will be easy and can be taken for granted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 There’s not a hope in hell that Ashley would accept 250M and Staveley must know this. If a sale isn’t agreed and that is the final offer then the whole thing has been a complete waste of time. Given the time and money invested in this process so far I can’t believe that Staveley will refuse to increase PCP’s offer. Seems most people think (based on bollocks all) that 250M is too low and that 300M would represent a fair price. Personally, I don’t think Ashley would want to accept 300M but it may just do the trick. PCP and their people have seen the books though.... and whilst clearly nothing there to scare them off, maybe there is stuff there to make them think a low (opening) offer is worth a punt. Hopefully its all part of the bargaining though, and there is still room to negotiate. I'm taking any report with some mouthpiece's opinion (S.Jordan) as exactly that... opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He did also say that because PCP have seen the books, if a price is agreed there is no way in hell it will take 40 days to write a cheque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He basically seemed to think the PCP offer was low, while Ashley's valuation was high, but that it would be a great investment at around 300-320 as all premier league clubs will be increasing in value in the coming years. If Ashley remains as owner we won't be a premier league club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He did also say that because PCP have seen the books, if a price is agreed there is no way in hell it will take 40 days to write a cheque. Is the 40 days/month long process not the Premier League's Fit and Proper Owner's test or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Imagine if it was all done (pending the Premier League reviewing it) and they were just waiting until Saturday to announce it. Ok now back to reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He basically seemed to think the PCP offer was low, while Ashley's valuation was high, but that it would be a great investment at around 300-320 as all premier league clubs will be increasing in value in the coming years. If Ashley remains as owner we won't be a premier league club What's your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He basically seemed to think the PCP offer was low, while Ashley's valuation was high, but that it would be a great investment at around 300-320 as all premier league clubs will be increasing in value in the coming years. If Ashley remains as owner we won't be a premier league club What's your point? That Simon Jordan is talking crap in that the new TV deal is only relevant if we were an established premier league club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Future TV deals will be very relevant to anyone interested in buying the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 There’s not a hope in hell that Ashley would accept 250M and Staveley must know this. If a sale isn’t agreed and that is the final offer then the whole thing has been a complete waste of time. Given the time and money invested in this process so far I can’t believe that Staveley will refuse to increase PCP’s offer. Seems most people think (based on bollocks all) that 250M is too low and that 300M would represent a fair price. Personally, I don’t think Ashley would want to accept 300M but it may just do the trick. Ashley could always agree to give Rafa £50m to spend on players in January, then as we should stay up, no doubt PCP will up their offer to £300m over the next few months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Thing is the TV deals simply push up the player prices and wages. Clubs might have more cash but arguably they simply have to spend it to keep up with the pace. Longer term if done properly the value of the club increases as a vehicle for whatever you’re promoting. Ashley’s decision to advertise his tat emporium(s) for nowt could bite him on the arse here. If he’d been paying the going rate it would have increased turnover and subsequently the value of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 relegation will not be like the previous two This is a big problem. Most fans will recognise this but I fear that Ashley thinks that coming straight back up will be easy and can be taken for granted. Did he not have to lend the club money each time we went down ? Not sure he'll want to do this again . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Apparently, however he did also say he is a poor billionaire that gets paid in wallpaper even tho he bought us and paid off all our debt in a couple of days, bought some London real estate for over £40 million and is currently buying a market for £30 million cash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 relegation will not be like the previous two This is a big problem. Most fans will recognise this but I fear that Ashley thinks that coming straight back up will be easy and can be taken for granted. Did he not have to lend the club money each time we went down ? Not sure he'll want to do this again . He did, then we have to pay him back from future TV money which then makes us skint in the prem, so we cant compete at a basic level in the transfer market and stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 We not had anymore speculative clickbait this morning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 We not had anymore speculative clickbait this morning? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/12/07/newcastle-united-takeover-painful-reminder-powerless-supporters/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Supporters aren't "powerless" as proven by Liverpool over recent years. If this deal caves, we've got to make the Fat Twat's position here untenable, and I think we will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Supporters aren't "powerless" as proven by Liverpool over recent years. If this deal caves, we've got to make the Fat t***'s position here untenable, and I think we will. Nah, Ashley's lot will spin it and the bulk of the support will swallow it and carry on sleepwalking into another sweet, numb relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Don't see what else we can do if Ashley wants to sell already, he can just say he hasn't found the right buyer. If this falls through and Rafa resigns that's pretty much it for a lot of fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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