Bimpy474 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I've never met a potato I didn't like. They're devious sods though, mash up everything they touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 How can Southampton sell for 220m inc VVD but this guy wants £400M? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 How can Southampton sell for 220m inc VVD but this guy wants £400M? That was only 80% of the club, fwiw. And Liverpool paying a ridiculous overinflated sum doesn’t make a difference to a clubs valuation. Liverpool could come in and buy Gayle for £100m in the summer for all we know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 No idea how right he usually is or whatever, but that guy who always goes through Companies House, the club's accounts when they're published, the boring finance stuff etc, Chris Holt? (iirc someone mentioned he used to post on here) He seems confident that net spend in the coming summer 2018 will exceed £70m. A McClaren sized budget basically. Whether Rafa is actually allowed to break our 13 year transfer record for quality is the caveat, though. Does that £70m include wages? Won't go far if it does. Unsure, but when looking at transfer net spend I don't think it ever includes wages. Still, though, not holding my breath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I've never met a potato I didn't like. They're devious sods though, mash up everything they touch. Wait, MASH holdings...?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 How can Southampton sell for 220m inc VVD but this guy wants £400M? That was only 80% of the club, fwiw. And Liverpool paying a ridiculous overinflated sum doesn’t make a difference to a clubs valuation. Liverpool could come in and buy Gayle for £100m in the summer for all we know. The point I'm trying to make is Southampton have/had more sellable assets than us and yet were still valued at a far cheaper price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Do some people seriously think Pardew might come back if Rafa walks? Seen quite a few posts suggesting it now and am hoping its just dark humour. I know Pardew's ego knows no bounds but I don't think he would want to come back here, even were Ashley mental enough to offer it. (And Ashley is mental when it comes to football). Pardew wouldn't even come out of the dugout at the games near the end. No way would he dare come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Pardew wouldn't have the balls to come back but Ashley would definitely approach him if Rafa leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Heres how it works ... The fat cunt has vowed not to put anymore £ into the club over and above what Rafa can generate through sales ... Rafa can never generate enough through sales to take us up to the next level ( ie qualifying for Europe every year ) hence its a knacker job ... Rafa will be off before that start of next season ... 50 000 knackers will still turn up and the nightmare will continue ... twas ever thus . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I wonder if the lads at Ashley Out will pick up the campaign again, once safety has been assured (it all but has, I know!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Heres how it works ... The fat cunt has vowed not to put anymore £ into the club over and above what Rafa can generate through sales ... Rafa can never generate enough through sales to take us up to the next level ( ie qualifying for Europe every year ) hence its a knacker job ... Rafa will be off before that start of next season ... 50 000 knackers will still turn up and the nightmare will continue ... twas ever thus . Not quite, clubs revenue not just transfer sales.. He wants the club to run on it's own and I don't think many will have an issue with that. The problem being his running of the club leads us to not have the revenue we should/could have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Don't know why there's such horror to the news the price had gone up. As mentioned, there were those who said exactly this: So begins the 'is it a negotiating position or is he really not going to sell us' fun time of the summer. I expect maximum amount of belligerent destroying of any chance we have of any positivity this summer To be fair to the horrible b******, if he genuinely wants to sell he isn't going to get a better opportunity than this. His gamble with spending has paid off, the manager is working wonders and the fans are all pulling in the same direction. It's only going downhill from here. If he does want to sell, this summer is the moment. One could argue he's played it perfectly. The thing is though, seeing we are perfectly poised, he’s going to put an extra premium on the price. And to be fair, the club is worth significantly more now than it was mid-January. As much as £400m isn’t unreasonable, all things considered. What I'm worried about is the conditions that might be attached to a sale, like Sports Direct advertising, and contracts with club merchandise. In a real business deal, these would be factored into the purchase price, but Ashley seems to be the type to say "£400m plus the rest." Surely's he's thinking there will never be a better time to sell. I don't believe he wants to be here - the short summer will result in extra transfer pressures and I don't think he can be bothered any more. All speculation, but tied to hope! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IneedAbed Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Even without the ties to merchandising isn't the price for the club and team effectively 450m, factoring in purchases of slim, dub and kennedy A proposed 100m plus investment that was mooted for the training ground a couple of years ago still being necessary? Isnt Sunderlands better for gods sakes , Its just not worth it . Newcastle summer is going to be like an EastEnders omnibus ...... depressing . Wish he would take 350m and blink out of my reality forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 If Ashley wants £400m for NUFC that shouldn't mean he sits on his hands doing nothing with the club, waiting through the transfer window to see if anyone is interested. That's what he's done previously. As I understand it, the club accounts are okay (especially after the minimum spend this season). Run the club properly, don't spend more money than we have (or are guaranteed to get - We knew we'd be getting £100m+ so why we weren't allowed to spend any in advance didn't make sense). Give Rafa a reasonable budget. If someone or a group come along to buy the club then negotiate with them. If Ashley wants to add any costs of transfers on top so be it. I'd rather he did that than do nothing and still not sell anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Heres how it works ... The fat cunt has vowed not to put anymore £ into the club over and above what Rafa can generate through sales ... Rafa can never generate enough through sales to take us up to the next level ( ie qualifying for Europe every year ) hence its a knacker job ... Rafa will be off before that start of next season ... 50 000 knackers will still turn up and the nightmare will continue ... twas ever thus . jesus christ dude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Heres how it works ... The fat cunt has vowed not to put anymore £ into the club over and above what Rafa can generate through sales ... Rafa can never generate enough through sales to take us up to the next level ( ie qualifying for Europe every year ) hence its a knacker job ... Rafa will be off before that start of next season ... 50 000 knackers will still turn up and the nightmare will continue ... twas ever thus . jesus christ dude Yes my son ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Heres how it works ... The fat cunt has vowed not to put anymore £ into the club over and above what Rafa can generate through sales ... Rafa can never generate enough through sales to take us up to the next level ( ie qualifying for Europe every year ) hence its a knacker job ... Rafa will be off before that start of next season ... 50 000 knackers will still turn up and the nightmare will continue ... twas ever thus . what apart from everything gives you this idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Being someone who 'tells it how it is'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Tbf, he knew Ashley was trouble before everyone else when Keegan was messed around. The rest of us didn't cotton on until Keegan was messed around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IneedAbed Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Tbf, he knew Ashley was trouble before everyone else when Keegan was messed around. The rest of us didn't cotton on until Keegan was messed around. So good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Pardew wouldn't have the balls to come back but Ashley would definitely approach him if Rafa leaves. Tbh I dont think Ashley like Pardew particullary. I'm more afraid of him putting Kinnear in charge again.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I doubt he'd consider either of them specifically, but he would make another monumental error of some kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Tony Mowbray’s Black n White Army... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Tony Mowbray’s Black n White Army... Nah he currently has a hand in the game. If no one steps foward then Ashley's pool of contacts is full of relics from the past looking to weazle their way back into football. We'll end up with another massive hasbeen. If Rafa were to chuck it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 George Graham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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