Nobody Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 take out Jamal, our squad is barely worth £30. on top of that we are favourites for relegation. who in their right mind would risk even £250m on the club, especially after the transfer window. the club is worth nothing near that unless we stay up. if we do escape relegation, i'm sure ashley will hike up his price to over £400 in the summer. We're nowhere near favourites for relegation are we? Have you seen the table? We are in the mix along with several teams who you can see trying to strengthen their squad. Will we? I know all that, but we're not favourites. We're definitely not. Odds on Swansea, West Brom, Stoke, Huddersfield and Brighton to go down are all lower than ours, only Southampton from the bottom 6 have higher odds than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I need to stay off the facebook groups - those f***ing imbeciles are doing my head in. Actually made me even more furious at how blind, stupid and submissive the general population is over this. People seemingly thinking Ashley hasn't lied to us (ever), his price is his price and if nobody is going to meet it, how is it his fault then? and that he's never had intentions to sell so those of us who believed are f***ing stupid believers. FB is terrible for football news/patter. Absolutely shit. FTFY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I really hope you're right and that he does want to sell, maybe with the proviso that SD still get some beneficial advertising Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Remember when Kevin Keegan left and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would meet with him and it would all be sorted? Then Ashley did nothing. Remember when Alan Shearer came in and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would meet with him and he'd become our manager? Then Ashley did nothing. ... So did you think the whole sale was a lie from day one? Not at all. It's not an 'I told you so' post at all because I did and do believe that the club was for sale with the obvious caveat that it was always possible that Ashley would fuck it all up, but surely there comes a point after he's once again fucked it all up where you disregard the entirety of Ashley's side of the story as lies by default, stop questioning other parties, and stop hanging onto any further hope of anything happening. I'm seeing people take the whole story as a given and questioning this that and the other within that story, without any perception that the entire story - a Mike Ashley story - is more than likely complete lies. For all we know what has actually happened is nothing like the story that's been put out. It could just as easily be the case that PCP met the asking price then kept trying to contact him, yet I've read 'they submitted a bid and just left it for 10 weeks?' and posts about PCP being just as much to blame posts all over the place. There's no scrutiny of the very basics imo. He lies all the fucking time and has been caught lying time and time again, but I feel like the whole story is just being accepted as a given. It's really frustrating to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Saturday man... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Wishful thinking maybe but I still think we'll be sold in the Summer should we avoid relegation. Trying to read between the lines ( and if the reprts of 300mill with clauses about relegation were accurate)it seems the sticking point was his valuation had no risk element for relegation. Should we stop up that element won't be there. Just hope he hasnt pissed them off to the extent theyd rather not have anything to do with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Remember when Kevin Keegan left and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would meet with him and it would all be sorted? Then Ashley did nothing. Remember when Alan Shearer came in and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would meet with him and he'd become our manager? Then Ashley did nothing. Remember when the Steve McMahon fronted Profitable Group came in with a bid and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would sell the club? Then Ashley did nothing. Remember when Barry Moat was lined up to buy the club and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would sell the club? Then Ashley did nothing. Remember when the bid for Andy Carroll was rejected and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley didn't want to sell and it would all be sorted? Then they sold Andy Carroll. Remember when Pardew broke record after record in shitness, and we hung onto the hope that surely Ashley would sack him. Then he had to be bought by Crystal Palace for us to get rid of him. Remember when Ashley employed Joe Kinnear twice? Remember when Ashley valued the footballing opinion of a former Chelsea steward above that of Kevin Keegan? I could go on and on and on. So why the f*** can I see that there are people still hanging onto the hope that this will go through and, more worryingly, taking anything that Ashley and his media cronies say with anything but extreme prejudice and trying to work out what Ashley's going to do with pointless little analogies and trying to apply common sense to Mike f***ing Ashley? Every single word out of his mouth should be assumed to be a lie. Stop falling for it man. f***ing hell, how many times does it need to happen before we all, as one, learn from what he's done, the relentless lies he's told and apply it to whatever defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory situation that he's once again managed to get us into? tl;dr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Remember when Kevin Keegan left and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would meet with him and it would all be sorted? Then Ashley did nothing. Remember when Alan Shearer came in and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would meet with him and he'd become our manager? Then Ashley did nothing. ... So did you think the whole sale was a lie from day one? Not at all. It's not an 'I told you so' post at all because I did and do believe that the club was for sale with the obvious caveat that it was always possible that Ashley would fuck it all up, but surely there comes a point after he's once again fucked it all up where you disregard the entirety of Ashley's side of the story as lies by default, stop questioning other parties, and stop hanging onto any further hope of anything happening. I'm seeing people take the whole story as a given and questioning this that and the other within that story, without any perception that the entire story - a Mike Ashley story - is more than likely complete lies. For all we know what has actually happened is nothing like the story that's been put out. It could just as easily be the case that PCP met the asking price then kept trying to contact him, yet I've read 'they submitted a bid and just left it for 10 weeks?' and posts about PCP being just as much to blame posts all over the place. There's no scrutiny of the very basics imo. He lies all the fucking time and has been caught lying time and time again, but I feel like the whole story is just being accepted as a given. It's really frustrating to see. PCP are completely blameless in the mess we're in. They have looked at the books, valued our playing squad (and Rafa) and come up with a bid that they think reflects that. The fact that nee other fucker is interested at even anything close to what Ashley wants says an awful lot about his valuation of the club. We don't even know if Ashley is intending to keep the interest free loan that he's got against the club or if that's included in the asking price. It'll take a massive investment in our squad to make us competitive, and bar Lascelles, we have absolutely no one to sell to bring funds in either. On top of that, there's a desperate need for a complete re-work of the academy and the training facilities needs modernised as well. These are just the things we know about, there are probably a million other things that would need looking over and that would be costly. Basically, despite the huge TV money that the club will receive as long as we stay up, the club really isn't worth all that much right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 tl;dr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Have PCP actually made any kind of formal statement about this debacle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Have PCP actually made any kind of formal statement about this debacle? No, and have refused to do so out of respect to the NDA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Still believe we'll be sold, but after the TV money details come out. Just say he agrees to sell us tomorrow for £300m and then next week all PL teams are informed they'll get £100m in TV money, Stavely would get that and he'd have sold us on the cheap. Keep the faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Have PCP actually made any kind of formal statement about this debacle? No, and have refused to do so out of respect to the NDA. Guess who wins again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 We’ll be sold when our status is confirmed either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Is Ashleys valuation based on what it's worth (around £280 Million) plus his original loan? So unless any potential new owner stumps up his loan (in full or instalments) he's not selling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I need to stay off the facebook groups - those fucking imbeciles are doing my head in. Actually made me even more furious at how blind, stupid and submissive the general population is over this. People seemingly thinking Ashley hasn't lied to us (ever), his price is his price and if nobody is going to meet it, how is it his fault then? and that he's never had intentions to sell so those of us who believed are fucking stupid believers. 'You build on people you build on mud'. /Pope Pius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 TalkSPORT saying PCP have said the offer is still there and they are as interested in us today as they were yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Remember when Kevin Keegan left and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would meet with him and it would all be sorted? Then Ashley did nothing. Remember when Alan Shearer came in and we were hanging onto the hope that Ashley would meet with him and he'd become our manager? Then Ashley did nothing. ... So did you think the whole sale was a lie from day one? by his post it sounded like KI was a skeptic the entire time and we're all idiots for having hope, again.... Definitely not, it's these utter fucking mugs that hold us all back. ↓ I need to stay off the facebook groups - those fucking imbeciles are doing my head in. Actually made me even more furious at how blind, stupid and submissive the general population is over this. People seemingly thinking Ashley hasn't lied to us (ever), his price is his price and if nobody is going to meet it, how is it his fault then? and that he's never had intentions to sell so those of us who believed are fucking stupid believers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 We’ll be sold when our status is confirmed either way. Pray you're right, Figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Still believe we'll be sold, but after the TV money details come out. Just say he agrees to sell us tomorrow for £300m and then next week all PL teams are informed they'll get £100m in TV money, Stavely would get that and he'd have sold us on the cheap. Keep the faith. At which point he will demand 400 million ... Give it up man its not happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 TalkSPORT saying PCP have said the offer is still there and they are as interested in us today as they were yesterday What is happening? Ashley just pissed on your offer yesterday and you just keep saying "it's still there". Games, games, games... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 TalkSPORT saying PCP have said the offer is still there and they are as interested in us today as they were yesterday I.e. 250m is our last offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/17/now-newcastle-amanda-staveleys-failed-attempt-hustle-mike-ashley/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 TalkSPORT saying the opposite of the accepted rhetoric in order to generate tweets, texts, phone calls, and ultimately money. FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/17/now-newcastle-amanda-staveleys-failed-attempt-hustle-mike-ashley/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Spot on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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