Wilson Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Don't think he had any intention of selling and was just going through the usual motions he does when things get a bit heated on him. He will have been livid that someone actually came up and made an offer this time though, he wasn't expecting that, hence the ignore it and it will go away tactic he is using. The bloke is a fat lying c***, who puts in nothing and gains so much from owning it. He is never leaving. There wasn't any heat on him at all. If he's done it, it's purely for s***s and giggles. He wants out, but wants x amount and won't budge. To be honest I think it's even less likely now that this little war of words has started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Any snipers out there? https://mobile.twitter.com/tfMichael1892/status/954292323881574400 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Don't think he had any intention of selling and was just going through the usual motions he does when things get a bit heated on him. He will have been livid that someone actually came up and made an offer this time though, he wasn't expecting that, hence the ignore it and it will go away tactic he is using. The bloke is a fat lying c***, who puts in nothing and gains so much from owning it. He is never leaving. There wasn't any heat on him at all. If he's done it, it's purely for s***s and giggles. Yeah, it wasn't really heat. I was more talking about not giving Rafa money in the summer and he came out with his shite interview that annoyed folk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Any snipers out there? https://mobile.twitter.com/tfMichael1892/status/954292323881574400 Would say that's harsh, but Martin comes across as a total cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Don't think he had any intention of selling and was just going through the usual motions he does when things get a bit heated on him. He will have been livid that someone actually came up and made an offer this time though, he wasn't expecting that, hence the ignore it and it will go away tactic he is using. The bloke is a fat lying c***, who puts in nothing and gains so much from owning it. He is never leaving. There wasn't any heat on him at all. If he's done it, it's purely for s***s and giggles. Yeah, it wasn't really heat. I was more talking about not giving Rafa money in the summer and he came out with his shite interview that annoyed folk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Don't think he had any intention of selling and was just going through the usual motions he does when things get a bit heated on him. He will have been livid that someone actually came up and made an offer this time though, he wasn't expecting that, hence the ignore it and it will go away tactic he is using. The bloke is a fat lying c***, who puts in nothing and gains so much from owning it. He is never leaving. There wasn't any heat on him at all. If he's done it, it's purely for s***s and giggles. He wants out, but wants x amount and won't budge. To be honest I think it's even less likely now that this little war of words has started. I don't think he does want out. Why would he? It's done wonders for his real interest. He would accept stupid money for it though, but he knows that nobody in their right mind would be willing to pay that. He see's PCP as a right thorn in his side as he is just going through the usual motions of trying to appease the fans with made up shite, not expecting someone to actually come in for the club and attempt to buy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Don't think he had any intention of selling and was just going through the usual motions he does when things get a bit heated on him. He will have been livid that someone actually came up and made an offer this time though, he wasn't expecting that, hence the ignore it and it will go away tactic he is using. The bloke is a fat lying c***, who puts in nothing and gains so much from owning it. He is never leaving. There wasn't any heat on him at all. If he's done it, it's purely for s***s and giggles. He wants out, but wants x amount and won't budge. To be honest I think it's even less likely now that this little war of words has started. That's almost right. I think he'll go for X amount, but he doesn't really want out, and that's why he won't budge from that price. He's set it high enough to ensure a very small chance of a sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. the encouraging aspects of that interview were her insistence on rafa and acknowledgement of the job he's doing, plus the fact she see's the club as integral to the city with some of her backer investing in ventures in the city already as ever it all depends on how much they want it, my own feeling (based on not much) is that ashley is such a cunt to deal with they'll probably not want it enough :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Ashley's camp are also making noises about looking at the TV deal again when details are released. That's preparation for moving the goalposts if we do stay up IMO, just in case PCP meet the asking price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 He's been given 3 separate offers to negotiate with and done fuck all with any of them. For those thinking all it needs is for AS to offer 50 mil more are missing the point. All Ashely needed to do was take the 350 million offer and remove the Championship clause from the final re-payment and negotiate the relegation clause (if this was done back in November we would no doubt have the players in Rafa needed by now). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Can't believe some of the reports saying that Amanda/PCP did not have the money to buy the club. I thought you had to show that funds were in place before due diligence began. I agree with earlier views i.e Ashley is not bothered about selling it because it supports his Sports Direct but he would accept a crazy (high) offer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I said a few years ago on here that we should brick his wife and my stance hasn't changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I feel proper sorry for my best mate like. He works with this German lad who reckons that Staveley is lying, he can't believe that my mate believes her over Ashley. When my mate mentioned that Ashley has been lying for 10 years and was proven in court to have deliberately lied to the Newcastle fans and the manager, his response was 'all businessmen lie' Can you imagine having to deal with that level of contradictory, deliberately obtuse shite? His argument is essentially Him: Staveley the business person is a liar! Lying is bad! My mate: Ashley lies all the time and it's been proven. Him: Yeah, but all business people lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I feel proper sorry for my best mate like. He works with this German lad who reckons that Staveley is lying, he can't believe that my mate believes her over Ashley. When my mate mentioned that Ashley has been lying for 10 years and was proven in court to have deliberately lied to the Newcastle fans and the manager, his response was 'all businessmen lie' Can you imagine having to deal with that level of contradictory, deliberately obtuse s****? His argument is essentially Him: Staveley the business person is a liar! Lying is bad! My mate: Ashley lies all the time and it's been proven. Him: Yeah, but all business people lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It's Plato's allegory of the cave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I feel proper sorry for my best mate like. He works with this German lad who reckons that Staveley is lying, he can't believe that my mate believes her over Ashley. When my mate mentioned that Ashley has been lying for 10 years and was proven in court to have deliberately lied to the Newcastle fans and the manager, his response was 'all businessmen lie' Can you imagine having to deal with that level of contradictory, deliberately obtuse s****? His argument is essentially Him: Staveley the business person is a liar! Lying is bad! My mate: Ashley lies all the time and it's been proven. Him: Yeah, but all business people lie. It’s like you’ve never seen Ready to Groom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. I'm not sure. I'm worried that after so long, it's gone public like this. It's like a last desperate attempt to move things along. I now think Ashley has no intention to sell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Any snipers out there? https://mobile.twitter.com/tfMichael1892/status/954292323881574400 Ashley's big fat head is a sniper's dream* tbf * © Bob Mortimer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Its concerning, if not surprising that theres seem sto have been no negotiation from Ashleys side... it appears to have been a case of 'if its not what he wants, he'll just ignore it'. However, I still think/hope that if we get some more points on the board, and the threat of relegation lessens, then she may come back with another higher or revised offer, removing the relegation clauses. However, I'm certain Ashley wont accept anything less, or with clauses in place, unless/until we go down again, and the value of his asset takes a hit again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. I'm not sure. I'm worried that after so long, it's gone public like this. It's like a last desperate attempt to move things along. I now think Ashley has no intention to sell If Ashley had no intention to sell then it would have been better for him to stay quiet and keep it going, especially while the window is open. He wants to sell, at his price, PCP need to up their bid.... Really nothing has changed apart from its all out in the open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Wonder if the £150m offer (200m-£50 for relegation clause) would still be on the table if we were relegated and whether that would be acceptable to him. Just musing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Its concerning, if not surprising that theres seem sto have been no negotiation from Ashleys side... it appears to have been a case of 'if its not what he wants, he'll just ignore it'. I don't think it's true that there has been no negation by him. He's just done it in his knuckle headed way: PCP - Offer 1 Submitted Ashley - Nope. Don't want clauses. PCP - Offer 2 Submitted Ashley - Nope. Still don't want clauses. PCP - Offer 3 Submitted Ashley - No direct response, maybe money is now too low. PCP - Fine offer is still on table Ashley - Make up story that two other bids are an table at 350m PCP - Ok good luck, our offer is still on table when if that doesn't work out (chuckle) Ashley - Concerned that public opinion is too far towards PCL - Publicly try to make themselves look like good guys - This at least adds doubt in peoples minds PCP - Try to keep public opinion on their side with their side of negations by releasing their statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroP Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Horrible horrible fat greedy cunt! Hope he dies from nettle stings to his fat curry burnt arsehole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. I'm not sure. I'm worried that after so long, it's gone public like this. It's like a last desperate attempt to move things along. I now think Ashley has no intention to sell If Ashley had no intention to sell then it would have been better for him to stay quiet and keep it going, especially while the window is open. He wants to sell, at his price, PCP need to up their bid.... Really nothing has changed apart from its all out in the open. I tend to agree that he does really want to sell. I think this weeks temper tantrum was two things. 1.He's p*ssed off that he now needs to run the club in the transfer window. He thought his "there are two other bids" lie would make PCP up their bid. And he'd be out of here. It's no coincidence that the "three signings" and "PCP are time wasters" come out at same time. 2.He needs to keep some sort of public opinion on his side. Protests will increase the chance of us losing Rafa and us going down. He needs us to stay up if he want's anything close to £350m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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