Mistle17 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Understandable the crowd are a bit quiet, we've been losing for weeks. It's down to the players to give them a lift. Did they not do that with the early goal and strong start on Saturday? Erm, yes? I didn’t say they didn’t. Was it still bad at that point? Sadly it was still pish and I'm at the front of the Gallowgate towards The Corner. I genuinely just think we're in a state of total limbo and there's very little faith in the players, which isn't the most useful combination at the moment. The takeover will make a world of difference, but relying on the crowd before that is fanciful at best. Need to grind out some results ugly IMO. Atmosphere was great up until the equaliser on Saturday. Even the Leicester manager said it was a difficult atmosphere to play in as have a few other opposition managers at SJP this season (Bilic, Klopp, Pochettino) The problem is, and you'll notice it tonight, that the style of play absolutely sucks the life out of the crowd and people become restless and even, dare I say it, bored by 20 minutes in. We never have a sustained amount of pressure on the opposition goal which along with a refereeing howler or a bad tackle are things that lift the crowd. People are edgy because we don't really look much of a threat going forward yet look vulnerable when the opposition do. This isnt a pop at the manager as hes doing what he can with a Championship quality squad but what we're watching now isn't condusive to a stirring atmosphere. Fans react to what they see on the pitch, and if it's pretty turgid stiff the atmosphere will reflect that. I completely see your point, but at the same time I just don't see it as a valid excuse to sit there in silence/moaning. I just think that people need to realise that their role as supporters is to sing and encourage, get behind the team. You can't go to a match (imo) with the mindset of 'well, I'll give socks if we're battering their goal'. And, for me, I think if we're defending a lead and the players are giving their all it can create that siege mentality and rally everyone around the team (but obviously most don't see it that way....probably because we're so unconvincing defending, in fairness). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Understandable the crowd are a bit quiet, we've been losing for weeks. It's down to the players to give them a lift. Did they not do that with the early goal and strong start on Saturday? Erm, yes? I didn’t say they didn’t. Was it still bad at that point? Sadly it was still pish and I'm at the front of the Gallowgate towards The Corner. I genuinely just think we're in a state of total limbo and there's very little faith in the players, which isn't the most useful combination at the moment. The takeover will make a world of difference, but relying on the crowd before that is fanciful at best. Need to grind out some results ugly IMO. Atmosphere was great up until the equaliser on Saturday. Even the Leicester manager said it was a difficult atmosphere to play in as have a few other opposition managers at SJP this season (Bilic, Klopp, Pochettino) The problem is, and you'll notice it tonight, that the style of play absolutely sucks the life out of the crowd and people become restless and even, dare I say it, bored by 20 minutes in. We never have a sustained amount of pressure on the opposition goal which along with a refereeing howler or a bad tackle are things that lift the crowd. People are edgy because we don't really look much of a threat going forward yet look vulnerable when the opposition do. This isnt a pop at the manager as hes doing what he can with a Championship quality squad but what we're watching now isn't condusive to a stirring atmosphere. Fans react to what they see on the pitch, and if it's pretty turgid stiff the atmosphere will reflect that. I completely see your point, but at the same time I just don't see it as a valid excuse to sit there in silence/moaning. I just think that people need to realise that their role as supporters is to sing and encourage, get behind the team. You can't go to a match (imo) with the mindset of 'well, I'll give socks if we're battering their goal'. And, for me, I think if we're defending a lead and the players are giving their all it can create that siege mentality and rally everyone around the team (but obviously most don't see it that way....probably because we're so unconvincing defending, in fairness). It's human nature and that's the way it's always been in this country. It's not the same as In Germany or Turkey for example where the atmosphere is choreographed and they have cheerleaders with their backs to the pitch telling the crowd what to sing. In England the support is more spontaneous and reactive to what is happening on the pitch. If we're showing plenty of attacking intent and the players are throwing themselves into tackles the crowd will be right up for it. If we're on the back foot, with little possession and showing no attacking threat it will be flat. I've been going since the 80s and tbh that's how it's always been regarding the crowd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Still got 1 spare if anyone fancies it. Drop me a PM or text. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Anyone think the takeover shit has demotivated the players? About 75% of the squad probably know they'll be out on their ear within 18 months if we're run properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Hopefully fighting for their place in the squad if we're gonna go glass half full. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I know it's a long shot but I have a spare ticket for the Platinum Club. Face value of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The atmosphere tonight if more positive news is trickled in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFlat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The atmosphere tonight if more positive news is trickled in... MORE?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Nailed on to get beat now. Allardyce will bring himself on and score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The atmosphere tonight if more positive news is trickled in... MORE?! Joselu pulls a hammy in the warm up. Only joking Jose lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I know it's a long shot but I have a spare ticket for the Platinum Club. Face value of course. Stick it on @nspares over on Twitter mate. Might get a buyer for it on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Optimism in here all of a sudden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Well now the atmosphere might be canny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 There’ll be people bumming in the stands at this rate with all this excitement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Expecting an atmosphere similar to the pre-Keegan return now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I know it's a long shot but I have a spare ticket for the Platinum Club. Face value of course. Stick it on @nspares over on Twitter mate. Might get a buyer for it on there. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Wor Amanda coming in on a Helicopter toneet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 There’ll be people bumming in the stands at this rate with all this excitement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 hours till Joselu time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjack Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4-2-3-1, with Gayle scoring one goal in the most boring game in the seasom, but Ill take it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 hours till Joselu time You mean Josegol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 7-0 with the good news spurring us on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 hours till Joselu time You mean Josegol Hiding his true ability until a breakthrough came with the takeover talks, under strict instructions from Rafa to not gan mental, thereby increasing the value of the club and strengthening Ashley's hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Allardyce will be livid that the team could be lifted by the new owner bounce. Park the bus time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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